Claude regular spits out six helper functions instead of... A twenty line for loop. It overengineers most things.

Overabstracting, deduplicating things that don't need to be. Building metaclasses because it saw a single orchestrator in the whole codebase.

If it is a better engineer than you... You need practice.

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adjejmxbdjdn an hour ago | parent | next [-]

The funny thing is that if you never understand the codebase then you will keep thinking Claude is doing a great work delivering all this incredible software, when all it has done is created unnecessary tech debt.

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Foobar8568 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Oh and how is it any different than most software engineers?

How many times I heard ORM are bad only to recreate the same shit?

How many times I heard ORM had bad performance and see 1+n stuff everywhere?

How many times I have seen tight coupling in the name of DRY?

	▲	shakna 15 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Its different, in that when you teach that engineer, they either leave because now they hate you, or they grow. They change to meet the standards of a project, rather than inventing their own. We don't get seniors, without juniors. I'd say more than half the job, is just... Learning. People grow.

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jjav an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> A twenty line for loop. It overengineers most things.

Anecdote I like to tell.. I was working on a financial planning software, intentionally purely vibe coded as an experiment.

I eventually discovered AI had implemented seven duplicate copies of tax calculation functions. All of them different. All of them wrong. All of them giving different answers for same input.

Not even the most junior of newbie junior engineers would do something this crazy. But AI was happy to do it. It will solve the immediate problem, efficiently. Even if the most efficient solution is something ridiculous like this.

	▲	ilija139 16 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I have also a weird story to tell that a human did and it is as crazy as this. It happen in 2019 so no LLMs at all. A person that was hired as an expert in our startup spent more than one week full time working on implementing his solution to the problem we were having. I checked the code after one week to see the progress and was curious how they are implementing an already crazy sounding idea. I found that the whole week was spent re-implementing in python, python's built-in "float" function. That was it, the whole code was just that. Our problem was related to financial services and their implementation of "float" was not even correct.
	▲	gnz11 11 minutes ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Which model though? I have similar anecdotes but all with older models. The jump in capabilities in the last 6 months has been substantial.
	▲	UpsideDownRide 18 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		For some definitions of efficiency.

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throw839948499 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I am former java enterprise dev, so yes I often code this way. Unit testing, decomposition... Some projects CI refuse to merge commits with 20 line loop and duplicated code...

But that is not a point. Claude can code tight compact loops, it just needs to be instructed to do so! If it does "enterprise code", it means it had no instructions about code style.

If your documentation, spec, agent.md does not have proper guidance on coding style... yet another red flag!

	▲	shakna 17 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> it just needs to be instructed to do so! Considering how often it overrules, its own rules?

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raverbashing 36 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

100%

It is my pet peeve with Claude and why I don't prefer it for most stuff

(also the comment spam - but that's a all of them in a way or another)