| ▲ | steve-atx-7600 3 hours ago | |||||||||||||
You would not expect the developers of the model to optimize for a well known benchmark? | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | simonw 38 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||
Here's 'Generate an SVG of a ring-tailed lemur riding an electric scooter' at reasoning level max: https://tools.simonwillison.net/markdown-svg-renderer?url=ht... Quote from the thinking trace: > I’m thinking about how a helmet would obscure lemur ears, but using an electric scooter helmet seems responsible. It's pretty solid - face is a little wonky but excellent tail and scooter. | ||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | y1n0 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
I would expect it happens more organically where people’s discussion of the benchmark and posted results find their way into the training data, like anything else on the internet. | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | kibae 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
There was a HN post that tested this hypothesis a few weeks ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49010129 | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | Kranar 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
What is this supposed to mean exactly? Do you think there are developers at OpenAI or Anthropic whose job is to train these state of the art models to draw pelicans riding bicycles? Like how exactly do you expect them to be doing that anyways? Hiring graphic artists to create SVGs of bike riding pelicans and feeding thousands of them into the model's training set? | ||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | mi_lk 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||
It stopped being a valuable benchmark proxy quite a few model versions ago. Simon knows it, so is everyone who’s serious about it Treat it like a bit as is | ||||||||||||||
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