You are not wrong, but I think atleastoptimal's suggestion was that descriptions like "next-token predictor" are often used to imply that there's not much to see here, perhaps with an implied "obviously" in there. "Stochastic parrot" seems to be a case in point: no-one expects intelligent, informed conversation or working software from a parrot - not even the eternally-resting Alex.

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Planktonne 4 days ago | parent [-]

I don't that's a fair description of either 'next-token predictor' or 'stochastic parrot'. Both of those terms describe mechanism, not value--the fact that people squawk that the terms are minimising is projection on their part, not inherent to the phrase.

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WarmWash 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

Words and expressions often have both colloquial and literal meanings. Trying to argue away the colloquial meaning under the guise of the literal meaning is just another form of whooshing.

	▲	Planktonne 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		Sure, but just because you think a colloquial meaning exists doesn't mean you're correct. It particularly doesn't mean that if you're seeing other people (that you don't like) use a term you yourself don't use, and you're jumping to conclusions about it without consideration.

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chrisjj 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

As a description of stochastic parrot it is 100% fair. The term emphasises the system's absence of understanding.