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lrvick 7 hours ago

If you are in California the DMV makes tens of millions of dollars a year selling all the data you give to the DMV, which is why I give them a P.O. Box.

adiabatichottub 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

CADMV claims on their web site that they cannot accept a P.O. box as a residence address. I have yet to find anything in California state law supporting this policy, though IANAL. Their enforcement seems to be quite lax.

Tangurena2 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It is a REAL ID requirement. It is federal law. States issuing REAL ID compliant identity documents must mail them to your physical address. USPS provides that data for address validation.

DPVCMRA = delivery point is a commercial mail receiving agent. Any sort of location with PO Boxes.

https://developers.usps.com/addressesv3#tag/Resources/operat...

Disclaimer: I used to work for my state's DMV.

lrvick an hour ago | parent [-]

As someone who spent years homeless off and on, I resent REAL ID discriminating against the unhoused, so I choose to use my privilege to reject it. I do not have or need REAL ID and my passport does not need a current residential address.

lrvick 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You cannot literally use "P.O. box" but if you use the virtual street address service the USPS offers now it works just fine.

spuz 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Am I missing something? What do you mean the DMV makes tens of millions of dollars a year selling data to itself?

sidewndr46 14 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

You fill out a form. The government sells the data on the form to someone who pays them money for it. There is no nuance here.

Tangurena2 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I used to work for my state's DMV. They'd sell vehicle registration data to various companies, which is how and why you get those "we've been trying to reach you about your car warranty" phone calls. I don't know about CA, but KY had a problem with tracking who ordered and who paid for that data. When I worked there, we found a number of "purchasers" who only paid for Year 1 but stopped paying afterwards.

Federal law requires state DMVs to supply that data to the car manufacturers. So if you own a Chevy, they have to send your data to Chevy in case there is a recall.

trashb 40 minutes ago | parent [-]

I suppose one other industry interested in this information is the bounty hunter industry (bail enforcement). I believe there are several platforms for licensed bounty hunters where they can receive this and similar information about a person/vehicle.

tensegrist 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

selling (data you give to the DMV) [to third parties], not selling (data you give) [to the DMV]

tmnvix 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The DMV sells the data you give to the DMV. The DMV does not sell the data you give to the DMV to the DMV.

spuz 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Haha, damn not enough caffeine this morning to parse correctly

Melatonic 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In guessing you can't choose to opt out ?

tpoacher 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

your positional encoding vector seems a bit off :D