What test do you propose as the actual go/no-go gauge to verify if some model is or is not AGI?

If you’re talking some nonsense, silly singularity… than whatever, don’t care.

But if you’re asking when a model has a sustainable general intelligence, for me, it’s pretty easy…

When it makes financial sense to run it 24 hours a day.

	▲	luma 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		For whom? That is a fantastically ill-defined test. Everyone here is comfortable throwing around this or that is or isn't AGI which is fun because, at the same time, nobody seems to have a testable definition. It makes either position pointless to argue.
	▲	deadmutex 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		What does it mean to run a model 24 hours a day? Aren't we way way past that already? QPS to any of the frontier models for a given point in time is most likely (far) greater than zero.
	▲	SequoiaHope an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I mean the laundromat runs the machines pretty much 24 hours a day but a washing machine is not AGI. Directly - something can be useful without being AGI.

p-e-w 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There can be no such test because “AGI” is (or has become) a pseudo-philosophical/socio-political concept rather than a scientific one.

	▲	esikich 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It always has been. The idea around here that we can actually define intelligence and point to it is sophomoric and incredibly frustrating.