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dataflow 2 hours ago

You're claiming that erroneously reported movements by ~33 ft lead to incarceration, yet the article you're linking to reports that erroneously reported movements by ~1mi+ lead to police coming to double-check what's going on. Am I incorrect and do you therefore have examples of ~30ft errors actually leading to their incarceration, or are you struggling to see the disconnect between what you're claiming vs. what is actually happening?

chaps an hour ago | parent | next [-]

If someone's home is 30' by 30' feet, yes, that person's device will report them having left their home and they'll get a visit if GPS suddenly shifts 30 feet to the left.

I'm talking about the class of problem. It happens in normal weather conditions and things like this exacerbate the problem.

Really not sure what the hostility's about.

saaaaaam an hour ago | parent | next [-]

As a neutral participant I think “the hostility” is probably because of your condescending tone when you said “hopefully it helps your confusion”. Your initial article really didn’t say anything about people being re-incarcerated for these sorts of errors. I really want to say “maybe you got CONFUSED and posted the wrong one!” but that would be snotty and condescending too.

But maybe you posted the wrong one to begin with.

Let’s all be friends and nice to each other.

chaps an hour ago | parent [-]

That's totally fair, I shouldn't have said it like that!

dataflow an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Do you have any examples of someone getting thrown behind bars due to a GPS error on the order of ~30ft like you're claiming? That's all I'm asking. Really don't understand why you keep avoiding it. You've essentially claimed police/judges are doing something rather stupid and terrible. I'm asking you to show example(s) of what you claimed (~30ft error → thrown behind bars), not something significantly different (~1+ mi error → only-police-visit-but-not-thrown-behind-bars).

chaps 8 minutes ago | parent [-]

"You've essentially claimed police/judges are doing something rather stupid and terrible."

Yes, yes I am. You really need to realize just how unbelievably fucking arbitrary the criminal courts are. At every level. They're not tech people.

To answer your question, I have examples of motions by prosecutors to suspend people from the EM program where they specifically cite specific data points just barely out of their homes, where video footage provably shows they were inside the whole time. They're not mine to share.

Btw, the courts are public and you should try some criminal courts watching. Pick a random day and just go.

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