| ▲ | manlymuppet 4 hours ago | |||||||||||||
I have nothing to say about the actual model, but unrelated--why do so many of these demos include people buying things autonomously? Even if I did trust an AI to get everything right, it's not like the AI can read my mind. If I was ordering food normally and without AI, I would want more control over the process--looking over the options, prices, thinking about what I really want. People don't know what they really want until they've thought about it a bit, so why do AI companies make it seem like a description is all that's required? All the context in the world cannot accurately predict how I'll react to things I haven't seen. The problem is people treating this like something that needs a solution. It doesn't. If you want to make my life easier with AI, just make it easier to do stuff. I don't want you to pick things that I actively enjoy picking myself. (Also not everyone has a cushy job in an AI lab that makes it so you won't miss $30 if the AI messes up haha.) | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | sensanaty 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||
Despite access to """"""AGI""""""" all the marketing teams at these companies can only dream up 2 things, buying plane tickets and online shopping autonomously. Sometimes they're feeling extra spicy and throw in sorting emails or something along those lines. I suspect it's because it's tailored towards VCs and other similar rich ghouls as a replacement for their overworked and underpaid secretaries | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | FinnKuhn 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
You can't even get many people to buy things online at all and if you can it's less profitable than retail, because you need to spend a lot of money to convince people, advertise to be seen, and account for returns. I think this is also due to the factors you mention. One quick example: In fashion, Inditex and Shein have about the same revenue (€39.9bn and $41.8bn in 2025), but Inditex is more than three times as profitable. I don't see how there is a demand for agentic commerce that would remove even more control from the customer when shopping. Part of why we shop is for the experience. For B2B producurement platforms like Alibaba I can see the appeal though. | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | echoangle 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
That’s exactly the problem I have with all this agent ideas too. Imagine you had a human concierge that is just waiting for your instructions and is as smart or a bit smarter than you. Would you just tell them “plan this holiday for me” or “order this food”? I don’t even trust my friends to get this right, why would I give this to someone else? | ||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | thi2 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
I work for a larger german retail chain and agentic shopping is already on the "near future vision". No one thinks this will be used but somehow shareholders love it. | ||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | GPerson an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
I’m guessing the marketing must mean the AI-shops-for-you use case is a pretty big market, much bigger than AI-makes-life-easier. | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | shostack 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
True, but they're still friction to be reduced here. What I desperately want is for 1password or stripe or even Google who already has much of my data, to o come up with a secure solution for online purchases with agentic credit cards where I can effectively get a phone prompt to authorize a purchase while the agent can fully own the checkout flow. I have seen various things coming on the market for this, but none of them appear aimed at a consumer audience. And I am a firm believer at this point in keeping my payment authorization and history and credentials harness agnostic. | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | notatoad 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||
because "people will let our AI spend their money for them" is the workflow that makes their valuations reasonable. | ||||||||||||||