| ▲ | gavinray 5 hours ago |
| > Like, what's the point, if the next AI can do it in 5 seconds?
Live a life doing whatever makes you happy.Post-work society is an inevitability if we don't destroy our planet. |
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| ▲ | madhatter999 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I think you're assuming work's only function is getting things done. Work also is a crowd control tool. |
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| ▲ | echoangle 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Is it realistic to keep people working jobs that don’t get anything done in the long term? I know most people will say that’s already happening, but imagine a society where basically every job is just a bullshit job made to keep you occupied, do you think people will continue working in a society like that? | | |
| ▲ | madhatter999 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Like you foresaw, I'll say this is the reality for most people. I think that just like now, those who want to do meaningful work will seek opportunities to do so. If we had something like a Maslow’s hierarchy of needs but for work, I think meaningfulness would be the top of the pyramid. For most people in the world, not going hungry or affording housing are reasons enough to do work. Getting to do work you find meaningful is truly a privilege. |
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| ▲ | akoboldfrying 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | If work is needed for "crowd control", why aren't popular holiday destinations crime hotspots? | | |
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| ▲ | lackoftactics 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Gary Economics wants to have a word with you. It would be fun to get to post-work society, but hard to imagine atm. TPTB won't let it happen |
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| ▲ | XCSme 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | But how this transition will even happen? Soon we will have some machines that can replace 50% of jobs, and this will happen basically overnight... | | |
| ▲ | unclad5968 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The steam engine replaced a lot of jobs. Tractors replaced a lot of jobs. Calculators replaced a lot of jobs. Computer used to be a job description before it was a personal device. There will be new jobs. | | |
| ▲ | XCSme 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Isn't the point of AGI that it can basically do any job? |
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| ▲ | neta1337 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It won't happen though |
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| ▲ | azan_ 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Come on, Gary is compulsive liar with zero credibility and really shitty takes. He’s entertaining though. | | |
| ▲ | lackoftactics 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Good take, I think his view is a bit simplistic. Also he also have a huge ego "I am the best economist in UK!" |
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| ▲ | calmoo 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Gary is not a voice worth listening to. A narcissist, fraud and has terrible epistemics. |
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| ▲ | cautiouscat 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > Post-work society is an inevitability if we don't destroy our planet. Is it? |
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| ▲ | gavinray 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Walk current technological progress down the road. I can't see a future in which almost every system (both physical and virtual) are not automated and optimized by autonomous entities. What do you do when everyone is out of a job? If you don't want pitchforks and riots in the streets, you give everyone UBI and housing so society doesn't collapse. | | |
| ▲ | tokioyoyo 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > If you don't want pitchforks and riots in the streets, you give everyone UBI and housing so society doesn't collapse. As much as I’d love UBI to happen, in current geopolitiks it’s a no-go. People are not happy with having what the others have. | |
| ▲ | bgarbiak 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I’m all for an UBI but a future where people have no purposeful jobs, no way to actually make a real difference to anything around them, is a bleak one. | |
| ▲ | tripleee 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Autonomous police drones will likely be able to handle the pitchforkers and rioters | |
| ▲ | greenowl 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | How do you determine who gets the house on the beach? Who gets the mountain view? Who gets stuck with the corner lot on a busy noisy road? | | |
| ▲ | tripleee 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | It wouldn't be a redistribution of our current assets like that. I think there would be a whole lot of repurposing of these things. The beach houses, mansions, mountain views could be vacation places, or used as libraries, or simply dismantled for the materials. The "slums" on noisy roads could be eliminated entirely and used for something people don't need to be at. We'd move to a more equal distribution of assets closer to the middle line. |
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| ▲ | exe34 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Or you build bunkers and build robots to keep the riffraff out. Shock collars on the guards' necks. |
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