I was wondering whether this was any good for programming, but it is too fast for its own good. There is a limit of 450,000 tokens per minute. I hit this limit in about 90 seconds and burned through $1.10 while doing so. This is because cached tokens count towards the token limit.

For comparison, I ran the same task with DeepSeek-V4-Flash, which finished in 172 seconds and cost $0.024 with a final context window size of 55217 tokens, while Qwen3.8-27B was not even close to being done with a 64178 context window.

This is a very efficient way to burn your money, but I would not recommend it for programming.

On the positive side, I got a $5 signup bonus, so it wasn't my own money.

Without prompt caching this becomes more expensive than fable 5.1 after turn 50, assuming you start with 40k tokens and add 2k per turn.

> There is a limit of 450,000 tokens per minute. I hit this limit in about 90 seconds

I'm confused. If it's 1500t/s, isn't that only 90k per minute? How do you hit a 450k/minute limit?

Could this also be coming from the problem that Qwen3.8-27B's default mode being "extra-high reasoning level"?