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scrlk 7 hours ago

Is the ARC-AGI-3 score with their custom harness? I'm guessing that is what the footnote is for? (per https://openai.com/index/how-two-settings-tripled-our-arc-ag...)

tedsanders 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Our responses API harness just means we're using the default settings in ChatGPT and Codex, so it should more accurately reflect real world performance. We didn’t fine-tune the harness to the eval at all.

ARC is reporting our score on their official leaderboard here: https://arcprize.org/leaderboard

A fair ding is that the comparison with Sol is not apples-to-apples (which we footnoted in the blog), but it's because we don’t have that data. I expect Sol would score roughly 30% with the responses API harness, so the Astra improvement is more like 30% -> 99% than 8% -> 99%. Still pretty good!

(I coauthored the linked blog post)

woah 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Haven't people demonstrated all kinds of weak LLMs getting good ARC-AGI-3 scores with special harnesses?

tintor 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Those people haven't verified their results against the private set: https://arcprize.org/leaderboard

andriy_koval 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Astra also not verified using private set, but on "semi-private" set

andrewchambers 3 hours ago | parent [-]

if that is true then why is astra on the official ARC leaderboard now ?

andriy_koval 3 hours ago | parent [-]

ARC leaderboard has results from semi-private data for frontier models, they have another competition for private data.

It is described in their methodology: https://arcprize.org/policy

It makes sense, since once OpenAI API receive task, it is not private anymore but leaked to OpenAI.

kasperni 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

yes it is.

enraged_camel 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yep. Incredibly misleading. Although it is not surprising at this point. They are desperate and will do anything to undermine Anthropic's upcoming IPO.

10xDev 6 hours ago | parent [-]

It is about memory retention. No heavy lifting done on the reasoning side so I hardly see anything misleading here.

Edit: update from fchollet https://x.com/fchollet/status/2095598451115614371