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a11r 3 hours ago

It is great to see another player introduce a fully open stack. Nvidia's Nemotron is the only other prominent one I know of.

All that said, the headline claims do not match the self-reported performance. For example, the dense 32B model is significantly behind Qwen3.8 27B (chart towards the bottom of https://ifm.ai/blog/k2). Gemma4 31B is not in the comparison set. This is the most important sweet spot for self hosted open-weight models today and real competition here will be very welcome.

baron3dl 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

https://allenai.org/ has the fully open olmo also

xienze 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They have the 32B listed as "stage 1" with the note "final checkpoint to be released." So, not finished yet. Not sure why you'd release it if it's not finished, but that's the explanation.

The 7B does look very, very good however.

bluejay2387 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

In this case, the fully open source pipeline is probably as valuable or more so than the weights, so releasing early has some justification.

WithinReason 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

32B performs worse than the 7B model so I'm sure they will improve it