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dcchambers 3 hours ago

It's not the singularity.

One of the major LLM providers goes down for some reason. Traffic shifts to the other providers because devs have no loyalty. LLMS are commodities. The other providers can't handle the increase in traffic and they go down as well.

phoghed 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm deeply loyal to the very concept of the LLM, so when any of them stop working I take time off out of respect.

atomicnumber3 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"loyalty"? weird word choice.

Devs switch because all of the magic of "AI" is LLMs + we stole the entire written output of the entire human species, with some remaining % coming from various tricks we've learned over the last 3 years like thinking and agent-toolcall loops, which weren't hard for literally everyone to copy. One of the consequences of this is that the only thing that really distinguishes anthropic from kimi is that they have the entire US VC market funding them because they promised to finally put white collar labor in its place.

dcchambers 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> "loyalty"? weird word choice.

All I mean is that none of the frontier LLMs are significantly better than the others for the vast majority of work, so devs are free to move between providers freely.

dist-epoch 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> stole the entire written output of the entire human species

Devs used to love public domain works, hated copyright, vehemently opposed software patents, held the pirates side during the MP3 wars, are very supportive of ThePirateBay and insist the correct term is "copyright infringement", not "stealing", and that "stealing" is a egregious form of PR brainwash from the media industry to inflate the scale of the crime

> Copyright holders frequently refer to copyright infringement as theft, "although such misuse has been rejected by legislatures and courts". The slogan "Piracy is theft" was used beginning in the 1980s, and is still being used.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement

Funny how devs now 180 when it's their work being "copyright infringed"

m4rtink 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't think regular people did any 180 degree turns. Rather big corporations again demonstrated their total hypocrisy where they on one hand stomp on people for "infringing their intellectual property" while at the same time scrapping all data they can get their tendrils on, with total disregards for the wishes of the authors of the data. Even to the point of overloading servers by mindless scrapping or destroying irreplaceable physical books like the bloody inquisition!

And all that to basically sell it back to people when their "AI" regurgitates it back.

No wonder people are mad about this!

osculum 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Since we are talking for other people, "devs" wouldn't have supported someone downloading all those copyrighted works from the pirate bay and profited by, for example, selling them. I don't see any 180.

mejutoco an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I do not want to ruin your fun but as atomicnumber3 was elected official spokesperson of all devs I have to conclude your argument is ironclad.

/s obviously

applfanboysbgon 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It has nothing to do with "their work", and the opposition to AI copyright usage comes much more from non-devs than devs. The actual answer is that people are anti-megacorporation and pro-individual. They are fine with copyright that protects individual rights and opposed to copyright that enshrines megacorporation rights. It's not that difficult to understand.

kevinrineer 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why are so many people invoking Thundering Herd without the RCA from the vendors? I just find it so intriguing.

biztos 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes but that doesn't mean it's not the singularity!