| ▲ | Insanity 4 hours ago |
| Think of it like one big distributed system. OpenAI is down, so people migrate to Claude, now this one gets overloaded and goes down, etc. So not a coincidence, one went down first and users migrated causing further DOS. At least that's my guess. |
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| ▲ | erdos_2 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| It'd be funny if this is true because that'd prolly mean nobody is touching Gemini even as a fallback. |
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| ▲ | JacobAsmuth 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | It could also mean that Google can absorb essentially unlimited demand spikes by load shedding. | |
| ▲ | nevir 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Or that Gemini is built to handle massive load spikes, and/or has a ton of excess capacity | | | |
| ▲ | Insanity 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Lol I didn't even think about Gemini missing from the list. Not sure what that says about Gemini or me :) | |
| ▲ | sroussey 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I did, for stuff i do in cursor. i also finally installed opencode and switched its model to muse 1.3 both are decent. | |
| ▲ | rtcoms 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Just now I got this from gemini It looks like there's no response available for this search. Try asking something else. | | |
| ▲ | exe34 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | I bet they had to implement that manually to make it look like they failed too! |
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| ▲ | gleenn 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Google stopped putting so much money into SOTA models. All the hype has migrated. I was also frankly turned off when I got a popup from Gemein said I would either have to pay or have my conversations used for training. This may have always been true for other providers but when I declined, Gemini stopped remembering my conversations and that definitely made me move out. | | |
| ▲ | HarHarVeryFunny 5 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Gemini said that? Gemini is what I mostly use (good enough, basically free - or massively generous free limits, and to me Google as a company is a LOT less objectionable than all the US-based alternatives), but I don't recall it ever saying that. OTOH, my basic assumption online is that there is no privacy, and free AI in exchange for acknowledged lack of privacy seems fair enough. | |
| ▲ | ilaksh 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Gemini 3.8 which just came out sounds like it's very good and a great deal though. |
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| ▲ | benatkin 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Not even the best agent that starts with a G | |
| ▲ | giancarlostoro 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Someone noted Gemini was also having issues in another thread. |
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| ▲ | fny 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I find it hard to believe that enough people would flock to from Claude and Chat to Grok to cause an outage. I feel like Gemini is the dominant release valve in this case especially for enterprise. |
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| ▲ | nevir 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Don't forget that there are a ton of tools out there that will automatically fall back in case of outage E.g. say you chose Sol as your default in Cursor, but Opus is your 2nd choice, it's going to give up on Sol after a few tries and switch to Opus Or you have copilot code reviews set up, and it falls back Etc | | |
| ▲ | pixl97 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yep. Too many of us are still thinking that humans are the actors behind a lot of internet behaviors when automated systems/bots/scripts have been causing issues on conventional internet systems for years. With AI it's even easier to trigger problems like you say. Capacity is so constrained by compute that outages are common. Because outages are common people/AI develop failover systems in their harness. When a big system has issues, suddenly everyone has issues. It's almost an expected emergent behavior. |
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| ▲ | wahnfrieden 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Compared with ChatGPT, those services have a minuscule amount of users. It shouldn’t be surprising that a ChatGPT outage causes Claude and others to go down. | |
| ▲ | baq 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It’s cursor’s model so plausible, lots of folks use cursor still. |
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| ▲ | paxys 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Especially considering memory/gpu/compute are scarce so these services are likely running with very little buffer. |
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| ▲ | v3rm1n 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This is what Tibo posted on twitter in response |
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| ▲ | toomuchtodo 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domino_effect Edit: Updated per valleyer's suggestion. |
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| ▲ | valleyer 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | "Domino effect" would probably be the more relevant named phenomenon there. | |
| ▲ | throwaway894345 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This isn’t a thundering herd problem, it’s a cascading failure. (Thundering herd is about a bunch of workers waking up simultaneously) |
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