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GaryBluto 7 hours ago

Very disappointed to see a program I remembered fondly for its native-feeling interface and functional, wholegrain feeling turned into whatever this is. It’s akin to a nutrient-rich home cooked meal being replaced with McDonald’s. I should’ve known it was doomed from the moment I saw an advertisement for their Discord chat room in the readme.

JosephRedfern 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This doesn't feel like very constructive feedback. Have you actually tried 4.0 yet, or were you too put off by the Discord link to proceed?

IMO Audacity has never been particularly native-feeling, and I don't buy the McDonalds analogy - this release is still lightweight. It'd be a fair comment if they'd e.g. move to Electron, but Qt 6 is hardly that.

Joel_Mckay 5 hours ago | parent [-]

wxWidgets uses the native OS interfaces. They have a valid point about Qt sometimes breaking things, and should be packaged as an audacity-qt6 fork.

Your perspective is also valid, in that it could be phrased a little kinder. =3

epcoa 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> wxWidgets uses the native OS interfaces.

Audacity was fooling no one that it was a native MacOS app, or even a particularly well designed GTK app. The fundamental idea of WX is not sound. Turns out MFC is not a great abstraction for AppKit.

Even Qt uses some higher level native UI interfaces on its respective implementations.

sunaookami 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah, it's sad to see how such a great program was ruined by yet another company. Opened it the other day and was greeted with a welcome screen that advertised some online service, then I had to turn off telemetry and there is some cloud integration now?

drdexebtjl 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Audacity users are not programmers.

Discord is the right platform to get feedback from normies.

Mashimo 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What about the new design do you think is not functional any more compared to version 3?

Joel_Mckay 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Many will discover >=Qt5 GL sometimes breaks in non-repairable ways on some linux desktops.

On windows 11, Qt is usually fine if the license is still compatible... The old wxWidgets supports native OS interface targeting being truly cross-platform.

Like all eye-candy interfaces at Microsoft, it will work until it doesn't. =3

Mashimo 4 hours ago | parent [-]

It does not read like op is using about potential qt problems, rather current ux.

tontonius 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

open source apps can be insanely powerful (and free!) but a thing that keeps a lot of them from 'mainstream' adoption is simply the F-tier user experience

gimp had the same issue and i wouldnt be surprised if you also miss the old GTK UI?

making audacity feel like a modern app instead of a dusty relic isnt making it into McDonalds..

I for one applaud this upgrade -- its the polish it should have had years ago

GaryBluto 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I’ve long despised GTK and GIMP in general so I don’t think I’d like any form of its UI.

jamius19 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ah yes, the native looking interface that doesn't even properly scale on a 4k monitor! Good times!

God forbid someone actually improves a software!

sisosksjjs 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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butlike 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Very disappointed to see a program I remembered fondly for its native-feeling interface and functional

But it used wxWidgets, so by definition, NOT native interface