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cogman10 4 hours ago

Regardless what anyone thinks about the security of voting in the US. I'd hope that they could see how massively upending multiple states' voting systems 2 months before the midterms is a really bad idea. Even with the best intentions, implementing such a sweeping untested change so rapidly is a horrible idea.

(No, I don't support it regardless, but surely even if you do you could recognize that the timeframe is way too short).

Terr_ 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

To go beyond the understatement of "bad idea" (and likely make the subtext into text): This thing is unmistakable malice, not mere incompetence.

There's no "oops I didn't know" or "oops I timed the project wrong" or "oops I forgot about the election deadline" or "oops nobody told me about the court-order prohibiting it", etc.

rg2004 34 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You're giving them too much credit. There is zero critical thinking happening.

majormajor 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There's a voted-into-oblivion reply to this from someone trying to both-sides things "I don't want to hear about it when it was changed quickly for Covid too".

but it doesn't work...anything then was done under literally the same President we have today?

That's pretty damn hilarious: *don't complain to me about the Trump admin fucking with the voting system on short notice in 2026 since the Trump admin also fucked with the voting system on short notice in 2020!"

(At least there was a major national emergency going on that time...)

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It's a point in favor of the "malicious" theory, though. Here's arguably the person who would have the most reason to not fuck with things last-minute, who complained at no end about the results, is now making his own last minute changes... hmmmm.... must still believe he got cheated, and is intentionally trying to cheat instead.

NicoJuicy an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The current administration will just blame it on someone else, like they always do.

mapontosevenths 30 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

"I can't believe Obama did this to us while we were in the middle of fighting Joe Bidens war in Iran! It's almost as bad as Bill Clinton's darn Tariffs!" - Future Trump, probably

NicoJuicy an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

And who complains will get their funding withdrawn.

llm_nerd 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There is something incredibly cancerous when a certain party abhors democracy, and does everything they can to undermine the voting rights or access to groups they think won't vote for them.

I would expect most Americans would see this as grotesquely anti-American, and absolutely against the principals of the country. Instead it barely makes news and is just another "get whatever advantage you can" tactic.

kkotak 18 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

You'd be surprised what hate is capable of. Once you paint a side as the enemy and convince half of the population of that, it becomes easy to carryout acts even if they're detrimental to the your side too. Look at the US economy and inflation caused by the tariffs and wars for instance. It's the 'our side is winning' mentality shortsightedness that destroys nations and institutions. By the time people realize this, it's often too late.

majormajor 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"Abhors democracy" isn't necessarily the right phrase for the on-the-ground majority. The leadership, sure. But not the average folk.

"Has such a small imagination that they can't imagine they wouldn't be the majority" is more like it.

For all the old fears of "we need the senate so big cities don't run the country" they have a massive blind spot of there being less diversity of thought, and more of a monoculture, in suburban and rural areas. And they don't realize that because of this they shouldn't be surprised if not everyone agrees with them.

prh8 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Even the house is unfairly tilted towards smaller states because of the 538 limit

FireBeyond 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There's a sizable part of the group that truly believe that cities get more representation than they do, that there are more rural Americans than urban.

sieabahlpark 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

[dead]

dplgk 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Trump supporters used to speak up on this site. Surely they still exist but all I hear is crickets

dpkirchner 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Hopefully they're embarrassed.

somenameforme 23 minutes ago | parent [-]

If you genuinely don't understand what's happening - it's the same reason that political discussion on Reddit became completely detached from reality. On these sort of topics you have a relatively small number of hyper partisans that aim to censor discussion through the abuse of flagging, and they're mostly successful. So all that's left is a circle jerk which has no meaningful connection to views in the actual world, or even on e.g. Hacker News. I'm not really sure why anybody would want this outcome; I suppose that in their mind it's some sort of attempt at manufacturing consent.

Anyhow, there's plenty of rich discussion to be had, but you increasingly need to do it in the real world, or on smaller forums/channels. This will likely be an even bigger issue in the future as LLMs will enable full automation of this sort of abuse that will ultimately probably be impossible to stop. In the grand scheme of things we're likely at the tail end of the era where having genuine political discussion online was possible, if not already slightly beyond it.