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xingped a day ago

I love how most any RTO-proponent always presents RTO as "well I'm glad you're back in the office with me because that's better for me". Ask most any WFH-proponent about going to the office and the answer will read like "do whatever works best for yourself, I prefer WFH myself, you can go to the office if you want". It's a very selfish mindset, really. If RTO-proponents cared about not imposing their will on others, they'd also advocate for WFH for anyone that prefers it, but they don't.

missedthecue a day ago | parent [-]

Well what do you expect? Holing yourself up in your home is something you can do unilaterally. In-person team collaboration requires... well, collaboration. It's not a unilateral action so there isn't unilateral advice.

pjmlp 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Except most of us don't do team collaboration in the office anyway.

With very few exceptions, all my projects involve distributed teams in a mix of nearshore and offshoring, across multiple locations.

FoundTheDouche 6 hours ago | parent [-]

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pjmlp 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If you say so.

cindyllm 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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locknitpicker 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> In-person team collaboration requires... well, collaboration.

You're confusing things. Collaboration doesn't require you to be continuously in the same room with people 5 days a week, 8 hours a day, and your personal needs to be in a room with someone else does not justify forcing everyone under payroll to commute to the office.

You already need to schedule meetings to be in the same room with someone, don't you? Why would anyone have to waste their time commuting to the office if you didn't booked a meeting?

missedthecue an hour ago | parent [-]

You're misunderstanding my use of the term collaboration. I'm not using it as corporate speak for "teamwork". I'm saying that in order for me to go into the office with everyone, everyone needs to go into the office. That's an axiomatic self-proving statement.

As opposed to WFH where one can simply do that without other people also doing it.

catchnear4321 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

in-person collaboration requiring in-person more than collaboration, as collaboration is quite possible remotely, and even asynchronously.

“holing yourself up…”

but it wasn’t about conversation, it was about opinion.

broknbottle 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

100%. The Linux kernel would have never grown and become so successful if it weren’t for everybody in the office all those years just collaborate-maxxxing … /s