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amiga386 7 hours ago

Ah yes, Nexus Mods, where they'll ban you for making mods that change "Body Type A" and "Body Type B" back to "Male" and "Female", or remove mandatory pronoun selection.

https://www.gameslearningsociety.org/did-nexus-mods-ban-pron...

And while they're still full of mods adding anime waifus into Skyrim, they'll ban anyone who uploads "content deemed illegal by English law" because they love sucking up to the Online Safety Act. (The site should really not be hosted in the UK until that law is repealed)

https://forums.nexusmods.com/topic/13520419-thevogelman-bann...

Does this mean that Steam's porn games will disappear from SteamDB as Nexus Mods puritanically censor their new acquisition?

seanw444 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Do you know of any good alternatives to Nexus Mods? A peer-to-peer system would be really cool. Mod hosting over something like Reticulum, with mod manager integration, sounds like a dream.

keyringlight 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

And there's an example of one of the contradictions of modern PC gaming, for as much as it'll get hyped as a mostly open platform with a lot of freedom (in comparison to consoles), there's an awful lot that has coalesced on a small number of services over the years where an awful lot of value can vanish instantly if someone makes a decision you don't agree with or a service gets disrupted/closed.

seanw444 3 hours ago | parent [-]

We still have the ability to use a different platform though. It's entirely up to the users to choose which services and programs to use to accomplish their goal. With consoles, you just get what you get, and have the privilege of paying a monthly subscription just to play multiplayer. When the demand for an alternative gets high enough, one will appear, because we have that ability.

long___cat 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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c-hendricks 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Try quoting the full line, not just the part that scares you:

> Uploading content deemed illegal by English law (indecent depictions of minors)

forestingfisher 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Just Web 2.0 and it’s consequences.

bakugo 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Knowing Nexus, I do expect some manner of censorship, though the exact form this censorship will take remains to be seen.

I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if they started taking payments from game publishers to hide historical player count data for certain games that aren't doing very well.

Natfan 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

sounds a bit... snowflakey of you

amiga386 an hour ago | parent [-]

Nexus Mods will ban you for making mods that reject the politics of the site moderators. That is not a neutral action.

Steam, as far as I understand, lets you publish anything that's legal in the countries you sell it. You don't have to conform to GabeN's politics.

SteamDB should be a faithful record of what's published to Steam. I hope it stays that way.

speedgoose 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Allow the vocal snowflakes who can’t accept a video game featuring a tiny bit of non binary gender identity, and sooner than later you face the nazi bar problem[0].

It didn’t take long for x.com, previously known as twitter.

[0]: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Nazi_bar

floro 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yep. I remember Nexus mods removing mods that turns gay characters straight while allowing mods that turn straight characters gay (Cyberpunk). It's super obvious this platform is politically motivated and not motivated to let the user decide which mods they want to use.

charcircuit 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>vocal snowflakes

This ad hominem is unnecessary when we are talking about quality of life mods. Of course quality of life mods are going to address what people are complaining about. That's the whole point of them.

>the nazi bar problem

Nexus Mods doesn't ban mods adding the trans flag to the game. Does this mean they are going to have the trans bar problem? You can make this same argument about everything.

wyrdcurt 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Can't imagine any reason why anyone who wants trans people to feel welcome would also want nazis and their friends to feel unwelcome... couldn't have anything to do with the fact that nazis systematically rounded up trans people, executed them, and erased their culture, could it? /s

More directly, are you really using a false equivalence to counter an "ad hominem"?

"Quality of life", that's a euphemism for queer erasure I haven't heard before... and here I was thinking a quality of life mod was one that fixed a janky UI or smoothed out a grind, that kind of thing.

You certainly could complain about a "trans bar problem" if you like, and you could even go make your own nazi bar if not having one bothers you enough -- though it's pretty clear what that would say about your values.

charcircuit 13 minutes ago | parent [-]

I think you missed the point in that they are both communities of people that others do not want to be around that try and push an ideology.

If you are not familiar with the term "Quality of Life" it refers to small changes that make the gameplay better. It smooths out the rough edges of the game. Annoying aspects of a game that people don't like get removed. Random bugs that the developer did not have time to fix get fixed. Removing political propaganda that got injected into a game is a better experience for the average gamer.

Personally, I'd prefer the platform to remain neutral and let people ignore mods they don't like.

Philpax 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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yreg 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Ah yes, Nexus Mods, where they'll ban you for making mods that change "Body Type A" and "Body Type B" back to "Male" and "Female", or remove mandatory pronoun selection.

Oh, no. If this is the most severe issue that the company has then we are fine.

yipinwong 6 hours ago | parent [-]

It's an example of broader issue.

You don't get what @amiga386 was implying

solid_fuel 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> It's an example of broader issue.

Be specific, use your big-person words like an adult. What specifically is the broader issue?

> You don't get what @amiga386 was implying

I think most of us get exactly what they're implying - they don't agree with the politics of the people running nexus (seems like they're scared of pronouns to me) - and don't really have anything concrete beyond that, so they're waving their hands and complaining about nexus abiding by the law.

indy 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

We don't like having an ideology pushed on us. That is the issue solid_fuel

solid_fuel 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Nobody is “pushing an ideology” on you, indy.

Nexus mods is allowed to choose what they want to host. If you want to share a mod they don’t accept, host it somewhere else.

indy 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes they are solid_fuel it just so happens that you agree with it and so you deny it's happening.

Responses like the one you just made carried more weight a couple of years ago but people are just getting tired of this schtick now.

The 'host it somewhere else' like doesn't work as you well know. Since whoever hosts anything that doesn't align exactly with modern progressive ideology is labeled a Nazi, fascist, transphobe etc etc etc and their hosting platforms, payment processors etc are bombarded with complaints.

Again though, people like you solid_fuel are losing power so maybe there is a chance that alternatives can exist.

amiga386 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The broader issue is people who publish on Nexus Mods appear to face more political restrictions than game developers publishing on Steam. I wonder if Nexus Mods will abuse their acquired control of SteamDB to censor it to their tastes, meaning it stops accurately reflecting Steam.

NamlchakKhandro 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Scared of pronouns.

Bwahaha.

Ok

yipinwong 2 hours ago | parent [-]

that's what you are thinking we are "scared".

not scared it's a different reason, where you think on the surface that's the issue you dummy who can only see the surface.

rstat1 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sounds like they were getting overly upset by things that don't effect them and also...checks notes a website following the law of the country they're based in.

Really weird things to be getting upset over if you ask me.

Regardless of the stupidity of the law (which don't get me wrong, the Online "Safety" Act in the UK is incredibly dumb) you still have to follow it until its struck down or replaced.

amiga386 2 hours ago | parent [-]

You can also host websites in not the UK and thus not be bound by the OSA.

I don't think SteamDB is currently hosted in the UK, and I think it would be a mistake to move it there.

floro 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They pretend not to get it because they agree with what Nexus mods is doing.

yreg 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Then why choose the most inconsequential example (IMO) I can imagine?

And what's the broader issue? That it's moderated?

itsdesmond 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Y’all cowards always implying. Say the thing you think. Just say it. I’ll start: I think getting upset by a pronouns dropdown is literal homophobia, in that y’all are so scared, worried, and bothered by thinking about gay shit that you’re installing software about it.

It’s weak. Y’all are weak.

jamesnorden 5 hours ago | parent [-]

God forbid you install a mod that modifies a game.

solid_fuel 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Good news! You're still allowed to install whatever mods you want.

Expecting Nexus to host mods they don't want to host is idiotic.

Hiding the whole complaint behind an implication is cowardice.

Hope that helps.