> Alright everyone, message received. I was not expecting this response, I honestly had no idea before I made the post

The source got deleted, what is the backlash even about? People don't like .net software running on Linux?

> Like I said, the code is experimental. A proof of concept showing that PDN-on-WINE is possible. It's not finished. I can literally just delete it. It won't be part of the next build.

This almost sounds like sarcasm and a reference to the whole "The Bun-rewritten-in-Rust branch is just a prototype and probably means nothing" Tweet that initially made the frontpage when it. But I think it's in earnest, just very similar to how I remember that Tweet I suppose.

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haunter 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>The source got deleted, what is the backlash even about?

It's Bluesky, they hate AI so the mob bullied him to delete the posts

https://web.archive.org/web/20260901203707/https://bsky.app/...

>Paint .NET-on-WINE has never been possible because of Direct2D, which WINE has really struggled with (for good reasons).

>So like ... why not reimplement Direct2D-in-Paint .NET? Remove the dependency on WINE completely. Clean room reverse engineering ...

>Thanks to Claude Code, it's now a reality. More story in the link above.

>It's buggy and slow, but real progress is being made.

>And I have no idea when/if this will be "production ready" or "supported" or even "good enough." Maybe next year, maybe next month, maybe 2035.

>Claude made more progress on this in 3 weeks than we've seen in the 12 years since PDN started using Direct2D in 2014.

>This isn't to talk down to the WINE folks, btw. Direct2D has a really complicated effects system, and probably only PDN really uses it, so the ROI was very low.

>AI doesn't care. And it doesn't get tired. And this is the perfect task for it: it already has the design (D2D's docs and API), and it already has a known-good implementation of it and an app to test against and bang its head against.

>So that's what it did: it banged its head against d2d1.dll and paintdotnet.exe for about 3 weeks until it was able to boot up PDN. In WINE. For real.

>Here's PDN on .NET 10 win-x64, in WINE 11.14-dev, on Ubuntu, in WSL2, on Windows 11. And yes it works on real Linux too.

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ascorbic 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> It's Bluesky, they hate AI

There is a very vocal section of the userbase who are vehemently anti-AI. Blocklists help avoid them (using them or being on them). However there is also a really good AI community on there. It's generally a lot less commercially-focused than on Twitter, for better and worse. It helps that atproto itself is really good for agents. They know how to use it, and the data is all open and accessible. Lots of people have been experimenting with agents that "live" on Bluesky, some of which are really interesting.

	▲	Karrot_Kream 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I wouldn't say it's a "really good AI community". There's not really much discussion that happens on new papers, techniques, new GPU kernels, topologies, etc etc. There's a few folks whose content I enjoy that generally revolves around philosophizing around how widespread LLM-style intelligence will affect society for both good and bad which is fun to read from time-to-time but not the level of context I desire out of an AI discussion. Unless I'm not following the right people which can totally be the case. I've stopped using the platform regularly because of how present this mob mentality toxicity is on the site.

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vova_hn2 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> the mob bullied him to delete the posts

Why not just ignore them? Most of them are probably not Paint.net users anyway. Why listening to some randos most of who wouldn't be using your software anyway.

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nashashmi 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I wonder if we will ever get AI-optimized language sets, ie code instructions given specifically to AI agents to develop code for a JIT interpreter. This gives the same results each and every time the instruction to AI is given no matter the version of LLM used.

	▲	nottorp 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I believe you want compilers?

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muglug 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> It's Bluesky, they hate AI

That's not true. The Bluesky team are themselves pretty pro-AI and open about how LLMs are used to build Bluesky and are necessary for moderation.

Lots of SWEs on Bluesky (e.g. me) use LLMs a lot and follow other people who do too.

On the other hand, artists and writers on there generally hate AI and will gladly take time out of their day to loudly gang up on anyone they see as betraying them.

	▲	zamadatix 4 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I think they just meant it as "Bluesky the community" rather than "Bluesky Social, PBC employees". E.g. just like "HN loves corrections" (hello!) refers to the HN community and "Reddit discusses the title" the same.
	▲	rescbr 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Same feeling as well. Bluesky is also a place amenable to bots.

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Philpax 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Use of Claude Code for an application used by artists. Just a fundamental misalignment of expectations.

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diath 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Makes no sense. I don't see physical artists being upset that their pencils were manufactured in a factory instead of hand made.

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bakugo 4 hours ago | parent [-]

That has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.

	▲	diath 4 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		We're in a reply chain discussing a mob of digital artists exercising verbal violence against a digital painting software author who used LLM to assist with the code. This is literally an analogous situation.
	▲	margalabargala 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		On the contrary I think that's an apt comparison. Look up the history of e.g. the Luddites. This isn't the first time this sort of thing has happened in human history.

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