This gets posted literally moments before I was about to pay them after ditching Claude. Thank you! I hate data collection in paid products.

I think I will be using Kagi Ultimate for the inference UI, so the data is somewhat anonymized before being collected.

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throwaway89201 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm really hoping Mistral will succeed with their open models, so I'm a bit biased, but I don't have any affiliation. This submit is a bit of well-meaning but confused scaremongering however.

Mistral has had, and continues to have, a toggle in the admin settings that permanently disables training on your data. The option has not been removed, and previous opt-outs are still honored. As far as I know, Mistral always trained on your data by default except for the enterprise plan, with the option to disable it on all plans, and with the option for organizations to make the choice for all your users.

Kagi Ultimate still uses mostly closed models by OpenAI / Anthropic, etc.

	▲	teekert 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		There is no toggle in my admin settings to disable this for the whole org (when on the Team plan). If it was there before they recently removed it. "Mistral always trained on your data by default except for the enterprise plan" - This is not true, until last week all docs stated that the use of your interactions with Vibe to train Mistral's AI models was off by default on the Team plan. Now that is only still the case on the enterprise plan.

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teiferer 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> I hate data collection in paid products.

You can opt out in this one.

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teekert 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You can still easily disable "Allow the use of your interactions with Vibe to train Mistral's AI models." What's annoying is that they switched this to on by default on Team plans with no way to turn it off for your whole team/org, this week.

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evanjrowley 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My best experience with Mistral has been with their expensive GLM-5.2 model. It's actually developed by Z.ai, but unlike Z.ai, the GLM-5.2 at Mistral can be used at a low price without training on your prompts - but only if you remember to hit the privacy toggle in their admin settings.

Planning code changes with GLM-5.2 using a Mistral Studio API key and implementing code changes using the Mistral Vibe API key has worked well for me. At my basic subscription tier, Vibe will share data with Mistral. It works for me because, when it comes to privacy, I care less about the actual code and more about the planning / high-level stuff.

	▲	nozzlegear 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> My best experience with Mistral has been with their expensive GLM-5.2 model. It's actually developed by Z.ai, but unlike Z.ai, the GLM-5.2 at Mistral can be used at a low price without training on your prompts - but only if you remember to hit the privacy toggle in their admin settings. Same here, actually. I'm American but have had a Mistral sub to supplement local models. The Mistral models, IMO, are very hit or miss, and I was about to cancel my sub until I saw they added GLM.

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saaaaaam 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You can opt out.

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rvz 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Just run your LLMs locally instead of using external providers.

Using Claude, Mistral and the rest of them is not going to solve your issue with data collection.