| ▲ | andsoitis 2 hours ago |
| Voters cannot be held accountable for all the specific things the person they elected do. That much should be self-evident. |
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| ▲ | dhosek 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| He’s doing exactly what he said he would do when he ran. People who voted for him can very much be held accountable. |
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| ▲ | andsoitis 35 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | > People who voted for him can very much be held accountable. Can you give an example of how, in practice, it would work to hold millions of voters accountable for what their elected representative does? Worth picking not just Trump, but let's say a few other Presidents around the world, including someone you voted for. | |
| ▲ | AnimalMuppet an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | When he ran, did he say that he'd make tariff rates bounce around like a kangaroo on speed? No, I don't think he did. Did he say that he'd threaten to annex Canada and Greenland? Not that I recall. Did he say that he'd start a war with Iran? No, I'm pretty sure he said "No new wars." Look, he's a loose cannon. Everyone who voted for him should have known that. But no, he's not doing "exactly what he said he would do when he ran". Some of what he's doing is what he said, and some is completely contradictory to what he said. (Credit where due: I stole the "kangaroo on speed" line from an unpublished short story. Don't remember the author, or I'd give them credit by name.) | | |
| ▲ | pebble 21 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | If you found anything he did surprising you haven’t been paying attention to him at all. | |
| ▲ | mylies43 35 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | So what? None of this is a surprise at all, if his voters fell for his "president of peace" bit then thats on them, at minimum they KNEW they were voting for a loose cannon who had no morals, cared about himself, insulted everyone around him, had terrible monetary and international policy... He bank rupted CASINOS for gods sake. They had every sign the 2nd time around, anyone who voted for him and regrets it now mainly does so because his bad choices are now personally affecting them lets not get it twisted. They were all happy as long as "others" got owned and not them | |
| ▲ | triceratops 40 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Is this sarcasm? |
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| ▲ | maigret an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That’s the definition of democracy. Of course voting is significant and has consequences. |
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| ▲ | andsoitis 38 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > That’s the definition of democracy. In a democracy, it is the elected officials, who are meant to represent the voter, that are held accountable. Not the voter. > Of course voting is significant and has consequences. Tautology but also not relevant. How do you propose the voter be held accountable? |
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| ▲ | c-linkage 30 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Voters can be held accountable; he demonstrated exactly what he was the first time in office and then people voted for him again. |
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| ▲ | ben_w 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Anyone can be held accountable for things they are responsible for, the question is how they'll react to being held thusly. |
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| ▲ | andsoitis 37 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > Anyone can be held accountable for things they are responsible for, the question is how they'll react to being held thusly. Voters are responsible for selecting representatives, but they are not responsible for running things and making the kinds of decisions that elected officials need to and do make. |
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| ▲ | tgv 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| If they could have known or suspected those things, then yes, they bear the responsibility. And Trump's intentions were there for all to see. |
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| ▲ | andsoitis 32 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > If they could have known or suspected those things, then yes, they bear the responsibility. In a situation like this, I like to do a thought experiment where I replace "Trump" with "Republican voter" in a headline or a story to see whether that idea holds up. |
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| ▲ | exe34 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| What if they knew what they were voting for? |