I don't know about kimi, but my napkin-math shows that qwen and glm give you at least an order of magnitude more usage than anthropic, and that's before you factor in any off-peak discounts.

▲

esperent 2 days ago | parent [-]

Are you calculating based on API prices? Because I'm talking specifically about subscriptions here.

	▲	kenmacd a day ago \| parent [-]
		Subscriptions. From some searching I saw a best case if around 600M tokens as a back of a napkin usage on the Anthropic subscription for $200 and at worst 2.6B for glm-5.3 for $120. The credit system makes it tricky to compare though so I'm curious how you worked them out to be closer. (K3 does seem much closer, I think)