But when I said the exact same thing [0], people were talking about how it's their "culture" to use corporate laptops for personal usage, and I even got downvoted and flagged if you read the thread (turn showdead on in your HN settings). It's baffling indeed, but I guess people will learn the hard way, that companies can see everything you store and even type on there.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47851948#47854312

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blks 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Really depends if company has some spyware installed. My work MacBook was just given me as plain new MacBook that I installed everything myself. Personal iCloud, work OneDrive, no corporate spyware

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lostlogin 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

It’s always good at the beginning. What happens when you leave? Is the laptop yours? Theirs? Is this documented?

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YetAnotherNick 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I have worked in 3 companies and none of them had installed anything on the work laptop. One IT department tried to, but I ignored all their messages. I would probably be pissed if I have to give up the right to work with privacy.

I had formatted the laptop both while getting it and returning it. I had filevault on and I wouldn't have shared my password.

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dxjxjdjsssb 2 days ago | parent [-]

Modern MDM solutions use Apple Business Manager to automatically deploy the MDM after a system wipe. If you have a company owned Apple device, and the company has it enrolled in ABM, then you can wipe and filevault all you want, but the agent will still be reinstalled, and the file vault key escrowed.

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		Yeah I know. It's not like Apple is trying to hide it or most companies try to hide spyware, and I know how to check for Apple business manager or spywares.

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debugnik 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Off the bat, you said that there shouldn't be expectations of privacy, not just that there currently isn't, which is not the exact same thing.

I've never used company equipment for anything personal beyond a quick Google search, but I'd still like there to be some degree of privacy in case I ever feel pressured to do so, e.g. by a deadline to fill a form.

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