nik282000 7 hours ago

Not like Chrome, Chrome feels like it LOVES hanging out with me, looking over my shoulder, telling all it's friends about what I'm working on, what I buy, and how much money I make.

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DrewADesign 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Sure, but Firefox doesn’t have to be Chrome to be unacceptable, and Chrome isn’t the only alternative. I reject the idea that Firefox can transgress as much as they want as long as Chrome has gotten worse.

And fuck then for buying and killing fakespot.

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culi 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Chrome is the only alternative unless you have access to Safari. Brave, Opera, Edge, etc are all Chromium and will all deprecate Manifest V2 eventually. The V2 mess is just one example of how Google can continue to stangle the web even if you're not using Chrome itself.

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theamk 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Chrome != Chromium engine

Most of the Chromium-based browsers remove Google's telemetry and integrations, so if someone has a problem with Chrome "looking over my shoulder", then they have many more alternatives.

And sure, Manifest V2 will disappear in all those forks, but many browsers have built-in adblocker instead, for example both Opera and Brave claim to. And other than adblockers, what else is lost in Manifest V2?

Mind you, I am still using Firefox, but saying "the only alternatives are Chrome and Firefox" is completely incorrect.

	▲	culi 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> Chrome != Chromium engine This exactly what I disagree with and I think I supported my argument quite clearly. The more we say "Chrome is not Chromium" the more stuff like V2 will happen. At some point we need to admit that the dominance of Chromium does in fact give Google power over the web

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evilduck 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Epiphany on Linux is a pretty straightforward Webkit browser. Konqueror still exists. Ladybird is up and coming. Servo is still making progress.

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DrewADesign 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I use Waterfox or Librewolf

	▲	culi 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		The "I use arch btw" of browsers. Jk but tbh I think group them in with Firefox

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qsera 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>Chrome is the only alternative

The future looks pretty clear to me. We will have to use two browsers. One government approved, google (or some other thing) vetted browser for all the official and banking stuff. One other for all the other causal stuff.

This would be bundled as a single package, with something like firefox containers automatically switching to the "approved" browser based on domain loaded in the tab.

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usernomdeguerre 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Once a browser is "Government Approved" all the other are 'Unapproved' ipso facto. There's nothing clear about that future, imo.

	▲	qsera 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		By government approved, I meant only to access government websites/applications.