> Never, ever, ever sign into personal mail/messaging on work machines

apple explicitly encourages their employees to do exactly this - it's called "carry"ing your work device.

encourages, but doesn’t require. My work phone is an iPhone 14 that I only use for Slack notifications & to check the next day’s schedule when I don’t want to bother opening their laptop.

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mathisfun123 2 days ago | parent [-]

i don't see your point - my point is apple actively encourages this thing that is being painted as terrible character flaw.

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morganw 2 days ago | parent [-]

When Ashley Gjovik was fired, she complained the pressure to use work devices for personal stuff was considerable. I stopped carrying back then & haven’t felt any pressure.

A “carry” or “live on” device doesn’t have to be used for personal email and messages. It should just be used for more real-world non-test workloads. The lessons of only testing iPhone 4 in stealth cases hasn’t been forgottten.

I do agree that Apple likes to have it both ways, though.

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mathisfun123 2 days ago | parent [-]

> I stopped carrying back then & haven’t felt any pressure.

if you're who i suspect you are, then you're being wholly disingenuous because you're not a dev. for a dev there is much more pressure.

	▲	morganw a day ago \| parent [-]
		Who I am is right there in the username (morganw), submissions & comments: Morgan Woodson. Not in SWE. Is it software if you write it in the hardware division? Edited to add that I think EPMs are under more pressure to be Apple cheerleader than engineers.