Related: There's also Ladybird that is developing quickly and is aiming for an alpha release this year. It's a truly independent browser engine built from scratch.

https://ladybird.org/

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figmert 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I just wish Ladybird can do what Electron currently does, but with much better resources. Especially in today's age where memory is so expensive.

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SirHumphrey 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is mentioned under every Firefox discussion despite being possibly years away from being generally useful if the will ever progress to that point.

It’s not really a feasible alternative.

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bastawhiz 8 hours ago | parent [-]

If the goal is browser diversity, is the answer really Firefox? Or is it one of the active in development projects from people who are motivated to do something new?

What exactly is Firefox going to do differently to grow its market share? Or just "more of whatever the last fifteen years have been"? Unless they have a plan to do better it seems foolish to trust that they'll steer the project miraculously towards success.

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cubefox 7 hours ago | parent [-]

> If the goal is browser diversity, is the answer really Firefox? Or is it one of the active in development projects from people who are motivated to do something new?

The former. Ladybird is currently not practically usable, it is unclear whether it will ever catch up to the main engines, and even if it does, it is unclear whether it will ever reach the market share that Firefox has. It is a nice project but science fiction at this point.

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em-bee 7 hours ago | parent [-]

ladybird is passing more than 90% of the browser test suite. that's not science fiction.

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asadotzler 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

the acid test is surfing the web. it doesn't matter how many tests it passes if users can't get to the sites they want and use them the way they want because their browser doesn't support some feature properly or because gets rejected by the sites for not being Chrome/Safari/Firefox.

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cubefox 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

How much does Firefox pass? 99.99%?

	▲	glenstein 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Right. I think the "last mile" compliance is where it gets most challenging.

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HaloZero 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What’s the real selling point? Yeah non profit but is it gonna be faster and better than WebKit? The reason I switched to chrome a long time ago was tab isolation, how much faster it was than Firefox, and built it better developer tools. What’s ladybug got going for it?

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em-bee 7 hours ago | parent [-]

completely independent development. not based on any existing browser. we need more browser variety.

	▲	HaloZero 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Most people don't care about that though. My wife doesn't care about browser independence. If Ladybird wants to more than just a pet project for some tech companies it needs a sell. Something that makes it better than Chrome.