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torginus 8 hours ago

Hasn't AI been horrible for FAANG fundamentally?

- They've all been compelled to build the same horribly expensive AI infra, to serve similar models that have no ability to lock-in customers

- Google Search has to compete with LLMs

- Meta hasn't demonstrated a credible argument on how they're planning to use AI. AI 'friends' would kill their business model. Their saving grace ironically is that people absolutely hate interacting with AIs. Same goes for other AI assistants.

- Hyperscalers have to compete for the same hardware as AI companies, driving their costs up

- AI turned out to be excellent at both porting software to more optimized stacks and deleting the 'prestige' of building these ultra-inefficient microservice containerized stuff. I haven't read a single article about somebody bragging about this stuff. When it comes to tech (which is not AI), usually its about Zig, Rust and going native.

- So if customers really start feeling the heat of rising costs, they have a realistic path of optimizing their compute usage by using AI to rewrite the worst-offending components. I think one of the few things in which AI has demonstrated measurable economic value is rewriting software in Rust to be more efficient

minimaxir 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> They've all been compelled to build the same horribly expensive AI infra, to serve similar models that have no ability to lock-in customers

Emphasis added, since having a horribly expensive AI infra allows offering enterprise contracts, which is a form of lock-in and has been pretty lucrative for GCP/Azure/AWS.

lotsofpulp 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>Hasn't AI been horrible for FAANG fundamentally?

No. Net income is up quite a bit and profit margins maintained at Microsoft, Amazon, Alphabet, and Amazon. Meta net income is flat, but they are maintaining profit margins.

cduzz 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Zitron's claim is that much of that boost in profit for microsoft and alphabet and amazon is from only a few customers, specifically openAI and anthropic, and that those companies are buying and promising to buy lots of resources with money from investments from those same companies, and that largely this is unsustainable unless openai and anthropic can find a profitable business model.

nl 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

And with both OpenAi and Anthropic are announcing record revenue growth to the point where Anthropic is now profitable this seems like it's going to work out fine for them.

Danox 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Until they go public, no one will know except insiders, and they are not really talking. Do you want to buy a pink elephant?

cduzz 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Would they announce record losses and financial distress?

We'll see when they go public. Until then all these press releases are strategic messaging...

nl 5 hours ago | parent [-]

> Would they announce record losses and financial distress?

Of course not, but private investors get to see their books and investors are lining up to invest.

Danox 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

He is right about that. Those companies are subsidizing the use of their models and at some point they are going to have to make a profit. It is unsustainable the direction they are currently headed in many people don’t like the messenger of bad news, but someone’s gonna be caught holding the bag stay clear of the blast crater.