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spicypixel 12 hours ago

Yeah but haiku 5 when?

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eshack94 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Asking the real questions. I've been wondering what the holdup on that is.

Does anyone reading this have additional knowledge or insight on this?

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9cb14c1ec0 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sonnet, Opus, and Fable are pushing so much revenue growth right now that it makes more sense to keep growing the expensive models than growing the cheap models.

	▲	km144 11 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yep. Simple answer is they want to IPO in the fall, and a new Haiku does literally nothing for them

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Jcampuzano2 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They haven't really mentioned practically anything about Haiku in quite a while so I imagine nobody except for people inside Anthropic will have any indication.

Maybe it'll come out eventually but they don't even include it on some of their comparison benchmarks anymore, so I figure its very low priority for them.

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wahnfrieden 11 hours ago | parent [-]

More likely that they are embarrassed by how their attempts compare with OpenAI's Haiku analog, Luna.

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ayewo 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Not so sure since Anthropic has 4 model families while OpenAI has 3 for GPT-5.6.

Claude Fable/Mythos vs GPT-5.6 Sol

Claude Opus vs GPT-5.6 Terra

Claude Sonnet vs GPT-5.6 Luna

Claude Haiku vs ?

	▲	HDBaseT 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		The pricing on Luna is just insanely good. Haiku simply cannot compete at almost any intelligence level against DeepSeek V4 Flash or Luna.

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mchusma 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think the signal from Anthropic is pretty clear between Haiku not getting an update in a year and the Sonnet issues this year. They don't care about low intelligence models. You should go elsewhere.

That's what we've done, migrated workflows away from Haiku and Sonnet. I actually think this is not a crazy position because these lower models have so much competition from Grok, OpenAI, DeepSeek, and about 20 other labs with really solid models in the Haiku to Sonnet range. So what is the point of Anthropic competing in these spaces where everything is going towards zero cost?

	▲	slashdev 10 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Exactly, that’s the low margin part of the market. They don’t care about it.

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topbanana 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

GPT 5.6 Luna is very good

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kingstnap 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Haiku would have to be a banger, with a significant price drop, to make any sense.

It's currently priced 33% above Gemini 3.7 Flash, and several multiples of 5.6 Luna.

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kilroy123 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

In my mind Sonnet 5 is haiku 5.

	▲	pestkranker 11 hours ago \| parent [-]
		The API pricing is not.

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deagle50 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

After IPO

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verdverm 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Is there a polymarket for Haiku 5 vs Gemini 3.5 pro?

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CamperBob2 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What's the point in paying them for Haiku-class models? You can run those on your own graphics card.