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iririririr 2 days ago

will never understand people who opt for a rootkit just for a 0,1% chance of a match without cheaters.

you're all the worse.

LollipopYakuza 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

[disclaimer: I am not a competitive player nor will I ever install such a low level anticheat]

I think it's already more than 0,1% in most popular games online, but I am assuming it would be just unplayable without anticheat.

iririririr 2 days ago | parent [-]

ok, 10%. but you're trading full root/admin access to game code on your pc... is it really really worth?

People are so brain washed that it is essential that here we are, sad companies won't take the option you giving them root access on linux too!

a much better solution would be absolutely no root kit, but players picking "never play with this player gain". done. boardgame.com does this and it is very much perfect and flawless.

LollipopYakuza 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I understand the logic, but I think most people don't realize the implication or don't care.

Hikikomori 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Not much difference when a user space program alredy can read all your files and memory of processes of your user. People just read big bad kernel or rootkit without considering what's alredy possible.

AndriyKunitsyn 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The Verdana font that your message is written with - how can you be sure that its TrueType bytecode hasn't escaped the sandbox and snuck into your ring0?

You either put some trust into the systems made by other people, or you don't touch computers at all.

john_strinlai 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

trust is not binary. i trust my preinstalled system fonts more than i trust vanguard, as an example.

different goals, different people involved, different scope of access, different amount of review, different amount of use = different levels of trust

AndriyKunitsyn 2 days ago | parent [-]

Absolutely, and we can discuss the amounts of this trust. Some people trust the anti-cheat devs. (I do too, on a PC that is used for almost nothing but gaming.)

john_strinlai 2 days ago | parent [-]

okay, if you agree with that, i am confused about your initial comment comparing anti-cheat to a font.

it appears like you are saying "if you trust the font to be okay, you should trust anti-cheat". but we've just cleared up that they have wildly different levels of trust, due to their wildly different access, size, purpose, etc.

AndriyKunitsyn 2 days ago | parent [-]

I mean - trust is subjective, right? Some people just don't care, some people are okay with the risk-reward tradeoff. I agree it's a bit absurd to compare vanguard to a font, but the parent comment was pretty unapologetic too.

iririririr 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

do not engage this comment.

it's either completely and honestly someone not technical missing the point entirely, or more likely trolling.

AndriyKunitsyn a day ago | parent [-]

You called me "all the worse", that gives me greenlight for a little trolling.