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nan60 a day ago

> radio for discovery

Would you be willing to share a bit more about this setup? The only thing keeping my on streaming is the fact that its almost impossible to find new music otherwise. I know LastFM exists but it just doesn't click for me the way that streaming does. I like discovering music organically.

bubblemoth a day ago | parent | next [-]

I left spotify around two years ago for a self hosted option (I mostly use navidrome+feishin). Music discovery was a concern for me as well, but then I realized that I didn't like the idea of spotify curating which music I discovered. So far, this is what has worked for me:

- Actually listening to the music I have now. I think the art of listening through full albums has slowly died, but there is so much music we're ignoring because we just listen to Artist's top tracks.

- Word of mouth. Asking my friends what they listen to. This is a way that people used to discover music and I've found so much good music this way.

- Bandcamp. Bandcamp is SUCH a good way to discover new music. You can listen to the music in app, there are great articles and you can actually support the artists!

fbnlsr a day ago | parent | next [-]

I have pretty much the same setup. The only thing that bothers me with navidrome+feishin is that gapless playback is not working perfectly.

Also, a great resource for discovering new music is the public library. They often have a curated CD section that I then rip into FLAC. I've had great chats with the people in my town's library, and I often pick a totally random CD off the shelves and discover some amazing artists.

l72 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Regarding Bandcamp, I find following small labels to be a great way to find new music. Small labels tend to release music of similar style and quality. They often also have deals on bandcamp where you can buy an entire label's discography for crazy cheap, like a hundred or so albums for $50!

lolive a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Mostly I listen to web radios, not always in a language that I master (hello Japanese). And Shazam plus Spotify is still a killing combo, for me.

yard2010 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

While moving from spotify to youtube music a few years ago I bought a vinyl player to listen to full albums and fell for it. Then when I moved to curate and self host my collection with Plex and Plexamp I realized I'm not using the player anymore since I'm using Plexamp to listen to albums. Plexamp is not perfect and not open source unfortunately, but it's a really good non-enshitified product.

I had to migrate away from youtube music since the experience was infuriating me every time. I love making playlists on the go. In youtube music after adding 30 tracks to the play queue, tapping 1 track accidentally deletes the play queue and plays this track. This made me feel bad every time it happened.

I don't see how it is just accepted to lose progress in 2026 as if we're using win95. It feels like 80% of the sw I use provides a caveman UX, not leveraging the tech, leaking implementation details and being constrained by technical reasons. On the other hand, working on Prepbook[0], I realized how hard it is to create the perfect experience and how it's even harder to justify it financially.

I'm doing discovery by talking to people, I love it. Every time I listen to Monolink I recall my co worker that just said "check out monolink" when he heard I love Ott. I love that it makes the experience about connection to people as well.

[0] https://prepbook.app

pixelatedindex a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Epic bought bandcamp many moons ago. Did they enshittify it or is it still going strong?

stijnveken a day ago | parent | next [-]

Epic actually sold Bandcamp 3 years ago. I only started using it lately so I can't say how it was before, but I think it's still good.

https://pitchfork.com/news/epic-games-sells-bandcamp-amid-la...

kennywinker a day ago | parent | next [-]

Unfortunately bandcamp laid off virtually all of their engineers a month or so back: https://www.hypebot.com/new-bandcamp-layoffs-why-artists-are...

So, not enshittified, but either abandoned or headed for ensloppification.

nsteel 16 hours ago | parent [-]

Did they only recently release access to a new streaming API or did I dream that (again)?

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ggirelli a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I've been using it sporadically over the past 10+ years and have not noticed any major changes, at least for my limited use.

pixelatedindex a day ago | parent [-]

Thanks, I did some digging. My biggest issue is Andrew Jervis not running Bandcamp Weekly anymore. I loved that show :(

wilted-iris a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I listen to Flow State, SomaFM, and aggregate from local shows and a few people I follow on social media among other discovery platforms. (I don’t have a favorite yet.)

I found that Spotify was increasingly recommending AI artists and songs I already knew. It surfaced very little outside of my comfort zone and effectively nothing that wasn’t new. There’s a whole world of music out there that Spotify wasn’t showing me.

bityard 20 hours ago | parent [-]

I stopped listening to Pandora well over a decade ago because its algorithm eventually decided that I only liked 12 songs in the whole world.

dylan604 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> radio for discovery

was a big question mark I had as well. The Clear Channel and iHeart stations are not known for discovery. Now if you find a college station or by some miracle an independent station you can get some new stuff. My favorite local college station is also ad free. They also have an app which I lean on as it's not the strongest transmitter so their coverage is spotty. Maybe there's other indy stations with apps as well??

BLKNSLVR a day ago | parent | next [-]

This radio station is local to the city I live in, and they've been great for music discovery for me, although heavy focus on local artists, but they've put me onto a few international artists as well.

https://threedradio.com/

I subscribe to them, have done so for ~10 years I reckon. I don't listen as much as I used to, but I want them to continue existing either way.

Be aware, the quality of their playlists is incredibly variable, but that's part of the charm. I guarantee you'll hear something you haven't heard before... for better or worse.

Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zHR0HMFY60 (with 2 minutes of silence at the start to, presumably, avoid auto-copyright claims).

mcmcmc a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Public radio is great, NPR and the member stations have some great streaming channels. KEXP and KCRW are two favs

wilted-iris a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I believe there are! I consistently hear good things about KEXP and FIP but I haven’t listened to either extensively.

I listen to a lot of SomaFM (free, https://somafm.com/) and the Flow State radio-podcast (paid, https://www.flowstate.fm/).

GaProgMan a day ago | parent [-]

I would always recommend KEXP. They have a really varied set of shows and setlists, don't seem to be swayed by "we must play the top 40", genuinely care about music, and are super nice if you head into the building in Seattle (which has a public access space, coffee shop, bathrooms, and a SubPop store).

I've had three tours around the place just by telling the folks there that Im there from out of town. To be fair, I might have gotten the tours because I came all the way over from England the times, but it's my favourite place to hang out when I'm in Seattle.

Also Ken is the nicest guy ever, and he introduced me to Larry Mizzel Jr while he was broadcasting live.

Get the app, or use the player on their website, and hive then a try for an hour or do. The app has the ability to "heart" a track while it's playing live, which helps with discovery.

frogulis 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

RRR and PBS in Melbourne both stream online and are both fantastic for music discovery. Go the former if you lean indie and the latter if you lean international.

keyringlight a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Internet radio is still going strong: https://www.radio-browser.info/

l72 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Wow this is amazing. I can't believe shoutcast still exists too!! I have fond memories of hosting a shoutcast stream at very low bandwidth over dialup!

There seems to be a few decent apps in F-droid and lots of stations with no ads and very specific genres like just depressive black metal!

mrguyorama 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Technobase.fm was my gateway drug to EDM when all I otherwise had access to was rock and roll and country.

There used to be Neradio as well, but they died like a decade ago.

msmagh a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

using nts.live and and fip radio -> https://www.radiofrance.fr/fip at the moment for same purpose. Radio France allows to save liked track names in profile to look up later.

lolive a day ago | parent [-]

In addition to those two bangers, BBC6 and RNE also have shows to discover new musics. PS: RadioParadise is also a safe place for good music.

ivh a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I use https://radioparadise.com for this, since more than 20 years.

cmoski a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Hype machine used to be so good for this. I haven't used it for a long time but it looks like it is still going in some fashion.

gnarlynarwhal42 a day ago | parent [-]

I used to use hypem soo much during the music blog days and had a subscription etc but it seemed to stop working or something so after a while I stopped using it. I will have to check it out again

twilo 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There is nothing better plexamp but unfortunately after plex raised their prices it might not be worth it for most

thesuitonym 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> its almost impossible to find new music otherwise

I don't know where this opinion came from (Probably Spotify's PR department) but it's just so weird to me. Do you think people didn't find new music before streaming? It's not impossible, you just have to talk to people.

kachnuv_ocasek a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I just listen to NTS most of the time.

SSLy a day ago | parent [-]

nts is all fire until a dj plays mp3 bitcrunched track that just hurts your ears

hyperadvanced a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Call me a boomer but I’ve had a ton of fun with XM radio. I can find new music on Bandcamp but nothing compares to hearing some classic from the 80’s that you would have never thought to put on when you’re driving home after work on a Friday.

hillbillydilly a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't know about you but spotify discovery feels like the least organic discovery possible. Its so homogeneous and predictable and corporate slop adjacent it makes me cringe just thinking about it.

refactor_master a day ago | parent [-]

I've discovered so many great artists through Spotify, and been to many of their shows (which Spotify also helps surface with their "Live Events" feature). I regularly get artists with less than 100k listeners in my Discover Weekly, which I then look up, and find that they did a concert on KEXP, and the comments all proclaiming "I knew good music wasn't dead!".

So I can say for sure that I don't share the slop sentiment. Sure, there's some generic filler every now and then, but any non-cohesive mix, as opposed to a carefully curated album is going to have songs that naturally become "fillers".

Just now, I discovered that Spotify snuck in "The Juan Maclean - Running Back To You (2014)", which is a cover of "Brian Bennet - Solstice (1978)". Neither songs are completely unknown, but they're also not exactly Bruno Mars.

I don't know if this is pure luck or algorithmic rhythm analysis, but for me it's working.