Violence ripples out. It’s never just one person. Living in a violent society has huge costs on all of us.

yndoendo 17 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That statement can be made about fraud too. More people are hurt via fraud than violent crime because it can reach into generations of people. It can escalate to whole communities.

The only time whole communities are harm via violence is mainly during a war or ethnic cleansing.

	▲	ailun 16 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yes, obviously the statement can be made about fraud, because you already made it. I was pointing out that the effects of violence are not as simple as hurting one person as you said. Then you replied by repeating yourself. I am so tired of talking to people like you.

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wredcoll a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You're right, but that doesn't discount the point about fraud, especially the "mega"fraudsters like favre and trump and friends.

It's not just the literal stealing, it is, as you point out, the ripple effects of destroying trust in society/government/etc.

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rexpop a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"Civil" violence also ripples out.

	▲	mfru a day ago \| parent \| next [-]
		There is already a named concept for it, you were probably looking for "social murder"
	▲	worthless-trash a day ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Right, so we need to utterly destroy people doing civil violence, or it'll ripple out quicker. Lets just cull the bottom 2% of offenders this decade, and see its long term effects.

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ryan_lane a day ago | parent | prev [-]

When health insurance companies withhold care and cause the death of hundreds of thousands of people, that certainly ripples out.

When profits of insurance are more important than people being able to get care, that directly leads to the situations that lead to violence. Poor, desperate people commit crimes, especially violent ones at a higher rate.