You can buy tokens on OpenRouter right now from companies who serve tokens as a business and who are not selling at a loss.

The frontier labs have very high prices for inference. The prices are actually going down, not up.

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mixmastamyk a day ago | parent [-]

I thought the discussion was about "frontier labs" in the cloud versus open at home.

Others running open models in the cloud is a nice third alternative, but not a solution for those that need frontier models, which I believe continue to need training as well as inference. These are currently heavily subsidized and hardware constrained several years out.

	▲	Dylan16807 21 hours ago \| parent [-]
		They said "equivalent level model". It's reasonable to assume that open source models in 12 months will be just as good as frontier models today. And this sub-discussion is more about whether there will continue to be some cloud model that's both more capable and cheaper than local, not so much about what kind of cloud model it is.