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| ▲ | nickff 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| It is very challenging to distinguish individuals interested in privacy from bots acting maliciously or with reckless indifference. If you devise a way to do this more effectively than Cloudflare, you should start a business to sell this as a service. |
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| ▲ | lynx97 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Sure, I am practicing understanding for the tyranny around me everyday when I wake up, as a meditation exercise. Answers like yours kill the little remaining faith I have in people. This same argument has been used to defend sloppily implemented CAPTCHAS destroying accessibility since what, 20 years. | | |
| ▲ | nickff an hour ago | parent [-] | | My employer is a small business that has an e-commerce website that is attacked by fraudsters trying to validate stolen credit cards or obtain customer information hundreds of times per day. Operations like CloudFlare are the only way to foil these actors. Just trusting you is not a viable strategy. | | |
| ▲ | salawat 13 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Your rate limits on adding and removing credit cards? Your input sanitization? Designing your system to not just disclose details around anything but that relevant to a logged in/authenticated user? There are many practical ways to handle that sort of thing that isn't Cloudflare. It just requires thinking and a bit of dev time. t. Been there, done that, cartels used an app to try to launder money through loyalty programs. Management was deadset against doing the one single thing that would make it impossible to do that at scale. Ulterior motives abound everywhere but especially behind people claiming X is the only answer. Fingerprinting is far more intrusive than just only allowing one to add at max 2 cards a day per user. | |
| ▲ | karmakurtisaani 25 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | The people who downvote could propose how to solve the fraudster problem instead of shooting the messenger. |
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| ▲ | webdoodle 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Don't listen to these hecklers, you have every right to your privacy, and should demand it. Anonymity is paramount if people want to be able to talk without repercussions. Gaslighting, heckling and other forms of harassment are to convince you to self censor. Don't take the bait. Ignore them. |
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| ▲ | neya 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
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| ▲ | salawat 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Hanlon's Razor is especially effective at getting Good people to put out their own eyes to keep them nice and soft targets for the malicious. I'll take being a harder to find likable by people I have no desire to be liked by to make myself a harder mark. The honest ones will understand. The malicious were never worth being close with, and I'm doing the world a service by getting the borderline enlightened. Sufficiently advanced stupidity being indistinguishable from malice is also something to keep in mind. | |
| ▲ | polotics 13 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | well in my experience mostly you get either: - stupidity - stupidity and malice |
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| ▲ | esseph 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > Because they slow down and often block access to websites, particularly for people that try to avoid being fingerprinted or otherwise tracked. Pretty evil behavior. Bots and scrapers and hackers also try and avoid being tracked, which is by far a bigger problem for them and most websites than the 15 of us using tons of antifingerprinting techniques. Evil? No, that's silly. |
