| ▲ | artisinal 2 hours ago |
| I fail to see the relation between a video doorbell and stopping a burglar. Burglars wear masks. Also, a doorbell ringing on the outside of the door is not only silly but in case of an apartment complex highly annoying for your neighbors. And make sure your neighbors like being monitored through your five services. Personally I have a button outside my front door. It is connected with a copper wire to the other side of the door to a small device that sends out an audible notification. No cloud required. |
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| ▲ | ezfe 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| It's video surveillance, it makes it more likely they'll go elsewhere. That's literally the whole point of Ring. |
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| ▲ | AngryData an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | People always say this, but is there any evidence it is true? Home burglars aren't exactly the cream of the criminal crop. | | |
| ▲ | cube00 43 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Take a walk around the neighbourhood, plenty of houses still don't have any video surveillance. There's no shortage of footage of people casing a place spotting the camera then wondering away. The smart ones look like they're any other lost delivery driver complete with package in hand. Thanks to the rise of gig work nobody has uniforms anymore. No that it really matters, plenty of stolen uniforms in play too. |
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| ▲ | artisinal 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Then go for a CCTV system with local storage for the whole apartment complex instead of a cloud based personal surveillance system. Then you don’t need 5 cloud services and people can go back to knocking. | | |
| ▲ | HDBaseT an hour ago | parent [-] | | When I break into peoples houses, I tend to take the NVR with me. | | |
| ▲ | KPGv2 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | People who break into houses are going for a few obvious high-dollar items. They're not searching for a server closet they don't know exists. They're looking for laptops, pharmaceuticals, jewelry. High dollar, portable items. not a strange-looking device hidden in a closet. And obviously you can put it in a rack that requires a key to open. They won't bother. | | | |
| ▲ | NuclearPM an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | NVR? | | |
| ▲ | necovek an hour ago | parent [-] | | Network Video Recorder, a name for devices where IP cameras stream their video to to be stored on, usually, a hard disk drive. Same thing as DVR for analog surveillance cameras, just with eth (usually PoE) ports. |
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| ▲ | tobyhinloopen an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You can have a camera doorbell using your copper wire. With a video doorbell you can get notifications when a person enters your property. You can notify police or neighbors if it’s a stranger |
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| ▲ | t098i3 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I used to have local teenagers messing around on my property and it completely stopped after putting up some lights and cameras. It stops most casual crime. |
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| ▲ | AngryData an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Are you sure the teenagers didn't just get older and moved on? | |
| ▲ | artisinal 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | We are talking about burglars. | | | |
| ▲ | mathisfun123 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | People steal things from stores which have had cctv for decades. I have no idea why people think these goofy webcams have any effect other than invading the privacy of your neighbors. | | |
| ▲ | t098i3 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I literally just said it solved my problem. Most casual crime is opportunistic, and cameras and lights add uncertainty to the opportunity. Most people aren't willing to chance the camera for an opportunistic score. | | |
| ▲ | schumpeter 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I’m not sure how it’s so hard for people replying to you, to understand, cameras are a deterrent. Crime is often opportunistic. I grew up in 80s Miami, the common tactic was knock on your front door to see if anyone’s home, when no one answers, they’d kick in the backdoor. Cameras deter crime. Not ALL crime. Criminals aren’t stupid and will simply go burgle someone that isn’t recording. | |
| ▲ | mathisfun123 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Most casual crime is opportunistic, and cameras and lights add uncertainty to the opportunity. Most people aren't willing to chance the camera for an opportunistic score. People have been stealing things from stores which have had cctv for decades. Your premises are manifestly false. | | |
| ▲ | t098i3 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It's a good thing I don't live in a store, then | | |
| ▲ | mathisfun123 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | This comment used to say something about shooting people on sight, which perfectly tracks with the demo that owns these cameras. | | |
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| ▲ | pynappo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Sure, theft still happens, but I don't see why home theft wouldn't be reduced by the presence of CCTV or other video surveillance. CCTV doesn't work well when people feel like nobody is going to bother to check its footage (e.g. pocketing a $2 drink from a big-box department store). But when it comes to homes, there are much higher chances of captured footage being used and examined, so it may cause opportunistic burglars to look at other houses instead. | |
| ▲ | cortesoft 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The question isn’t whether people EVER steal when there is a camera, the question is whether they will still LESS. Just because something doesn’t work 100% of the time doesn’t mean it can’t be effective. |
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| ▲ | KPGv2 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > People steal things from stores which have had cctv for decades. The crime there (shoplifting) doesn't begin until they leave. In the case of a burglary, the crime begins when they enter. Seems to be a pretty important distinction when discussing whether knowing a person is physically present on your property alerts you to a crime in progress. | |
| ▲ | thesmtsolver2 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | And criminals have been caught using CCTV footage for decades. | | |
| ▲ | t098i3 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Famously the big companies like Target will let people steal until they cross the amount for a felony then throw the book at them |
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