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dmix 2 days ago

The only outcome I see from the Meta ruling is all of the other platforms getting spooked by the huge payout and starting to preemptively add aggressive age-gating and ID checks on everything on the internet (regardless of local legislation).

bossyTeacher 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

What other platforms (I think you mean social media) exist in the West? It's just Meta (Facebook, Instagram) and whatever company manages the western Tik Tok. Luckily, they are easy to stay away from. There is more to the internet than these 2 companies.

Arainach 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> There is more to the internet than these 2 companies.

Not as much as most people think.

A huge percentage of the physical world runs through these platforms - and if you add Twitter it gets even worse.

Plenty of groups I follow communicate exclusively through social media channels. If you want to know what events are happening there - in some cases even what hours they're open - it's through Facebook or Instagram.

For things which aren't formal businesses (photo clubs, bar popups, all sorts of things) it's even more prevalent.

Sure, if I want to sit in my house and discuss philosphy on Hacker News or IRC those exist, but it is very difficult to avoid Meta's platforms and have a social life - much less a dating life.

ChrisMarshallNY 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> There is more to the internet than these 2 companies.

To many people, the Internet is Facebook.

Back in the day, the same people considered AOL to be the Internet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDbyYGrswtg

polyomino 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Youtube is the big one called out in this settlement

rimeice 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

“Other platforms” - social media sites? If so this != “everything on the internet”

pibaker 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Your definition of what is a social media site may differ from the definition of someone who has an axe to grind against you and take you and your phpbb forum to court.

dmix 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Social media encompasses most the internet usage yes (including Youtube/Google). Plus ChatGPT, Discord, Twitch, messaging apps, porn sites, Reddit, Netix, image sharing sites, etc.. basically any major B2C category

downrightmike 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Parents really need to parent

wpietri 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Society depends upon having generation after generation of healthy members. That has never been a time when individual parents were sufficient to solve all the problems there. And even that were possible, directing all the attention on them acts to absolve Meta of all responsibility for their own actions.

If we're going to promote a policy of personal responsibility, let's at least look at all the persons involved.

mschuster91 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How? Between 11 hours of work+commute, 8 hours of sleep and 2 hours of work-adjacent activities such as making food or household chores... there isn't that much time left in a day.

That's also the reason why so many people don't have children any more, or only later in their life when they are economically settled.

winrid 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

People worked that hard when families often had 3 or more kids. The difference is one parent could afford to not work. We've let corporations "optimize" that away.

dmix 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Phones have had parental controls already built in forever. My sister is a busy executive who commutes daily and she didn't let her kid have a phone until age 13, and when they bought an Android phone they signed up for one of the (many) existing parental monitoring apps. Which for ex will notify the parent when their child gets messaged from a new person not in their existing curated contact list. So their phone is only used contacting their close friends at school. Parental monitoring and controlling usage on sites like Youtube and Facebook is a long solved problem, if the parent put any basic effort in.

ytoawwhra92 2 days ago | parent [-]

> Phones have had parental controls already built in forever.

Most of them don't work as advertised.

> Parental monitoring and controlling usage on sites like Youtube and Facebook is a long solved problem, if the parent put any basic effort in.

How old are your kids?

trhway 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I think the reason may be generational. The current parents are majority Millenials, the generation which didn't have to shoulder a lot of personal responsibility like previous generations. Thus when it comes to their children they as usually place the responsibility on anybody but themselves.

Both parents working actually i think is a net-good thing - it teaches children to be responsible from early age. As my parents were both working - USSR - even when i was 5 years old i was already watching my 1 year old sister. And we were pretty typical at that.

folkrav 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> Millenials, the generation which didn't have to shoulder a lot of personal responsibility like previous generations

Please expand on this, cause holy fuck couldn't it less apply to my experience educating - then raising my own - kids.

ytoawwhra92 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Governments require age verification to drive a car, purchase alcohol and other dangerous products, enter adult venues, and in various other scenarios. Why not for accessing Internet properties that are just as harmful?

mschuster91 2 days ago | parent [-]

> Governments require age verification to drive a car, purchase alcohol and other dangerous products, enter adult venues, and in various other scenarios.

On paper. In practice... especially in rural areas not filled to the brim with busybodies, enforcement is spotty or limited to excessive, inappropriate morons.

ares623 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

won't someone think of the corporations and CEOs