| ▲ | rcxdude 6 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||
These crawlers (in contrast to e.g. googlebot and similar better behaved crawlers) are not very smart: they seem to make very little effort to avoiding crawling useless deep trees of generated pages. About the only thing they seem to put a lot of effort into is avoiding blocking. (I'll note that while these are generally attributed to AI data gathering because of the timing of when they took off, it's not actually obvious who's running these bots. The big players all have crawlers that identify themselves and are reasonably well behaved, but I don't know if anyone has managed to positively attribute these other ones to any particular group) | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | ipdashc 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
> it's not actually obvious who's running these bots This is fascinating to me. It's a large enough phenomenon that it's affecting the entire Internet and yet nobody seems to know yet who's actually doing it. Which isn't surprising, of course, it's hard to trace back to a source through all these proxies and it's probably a bunch of distinct groups anyways, but still! Personally I have to wonder how much of it is "scrapers for training data" vs just tool-use LLMs. Even if you use chatgpt in thinking mode you can clearly see it searching and visiting a bunch of different websites to answer a question, presumably faster than any human would. That's got to add up. It's got me wondering why everyone seemingly discounts that as an option | |||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | voakbasda 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
Why do we think that only “good guys” are training LLMs? I imagine organized crime is getting in on the game too. | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | Symbiote 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||
Meta is an exception. They intentionally ignore robots.txt rules. (No second chances, I blocked their whole IP range.) | |||||||||||||||||
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