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sethops1 6 hours ago

In a few years the VC money will dry up and this gross overspend on slurping data will end.

igor47 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Visions of vast data centers surrounded by fields of browning grass, in which aging, rusting, formerly extremely expensive hardware is spending billions of compute cycles looking at anime catgirls

marginalia_nu 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's very likely the last few years of bot behavior is the consequence of the residential proxy business booming. This is indirectly due to AI company crawling, but the fact that they are as cheap and available as they are changes the incentives for anyone using them toward reckless and unsustainable request behavior, as there is no risk of burning your IPs, and very small chances of seeing any consequences of essentially DDoS:ing a website.

inigyou an hour ago | parent [-]

And the residential proxy business was created by Cloudflare, who was created by us using Cloudflare.

I've been on all three sides (user of RPs, getting paid to run an RP, and trying to block RPs from my site). Residential proxy service is nice. You can scrape anything, even with the dumbest curl command, and only get a Cloudflare block maybe 15% of the time, in which case you just try again. That's less often than I get a cloudflare block from using a privacy browser from a non-proxy address. Cloudflare does not stop bots, it stops humans.

pixl97 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Unfortunately we're apt to run into some kind of Jeavons Paradox where the hardware gets so much faster in those few years will be able to slurp massive amounts of data cheaply so the problem never really ends.