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lkbm 7 hours ago

> So, you'd think that something that pretends to be “Artificial Intelligence” would use the most efficient way of using our data for training purposes, right? Clone the repos, walk every commit. Done.

If repos like this were 10%+ of what they crawled, having a special case for clone-able repos would be smart, but if you're crawling everything, you're not going to do an efficiency tweak for each special case that has a more parse-able option.

DarmokTanagra 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Most of these crawlers are probably AI generated in the first place, and AI generated code is garbage.

Thats a good enough explanation in my opinion.

Source: someone who reviews AI generated PR's on a daily basis

phmx 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I guess GitHub is in a similar bunch of sources, it should be also more efficient to crawl by cloning. Anyway, isn’t it the whole sales pitch that it generates tailored solutions fast?

kalkin 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This tick about "if AI smart how come crawler dumb" is in most complaints I've read about AI crawlers and I've started to find it pretty annoying. The crawlers might be written using AI but they're evidently not actually running AI inference over the pages they get back--besides being able to tell this from the behavior, if this is pretraining input, that's enormous scale, so it'd mean a large increase in effective training cost. Naively assume inference costs are equal to pretraining costs (probably not true but maybe right order-of-magnitude) and it's a doubling.

This ends up tacitly turning a very legitimate complaint (ill-behaved crawlers) into a justification for head-in-the-sand AI denialism.

bigstrat2003 an hour ago | parent [-]

There's nothing "denialist" about recognizing the utter stupidity of systems that are being mislabeled as "AI". You judge a tool by its results, and the results have been very poor indeed. The only heads in the sand are those whose owners continually refuse to recognize the proofs before their very eyes that there's zero intelligence here.