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zimpenfish 15 hours ago

> I’ve lived in a bunch of European countries and in none would you be charged with murder in that situation.

Presumably not the UK?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin_(farmer)

"Anthony Edward Martin was an English farmer who shot two burglars in his home [...] was convicted of murder, which was later reduced to manslaughter on grounds of diminished responsibility"

bulbar 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"Details" matter:

> The prosecution accused him of lying in wait for the burglars and opening fire without warning from close range, in retribution for previous break-ins at his home.[13]

No warning shot.

He also llegally bought a semi-automatic pump shotgun, possibly with the explicit plan to kill the intruders (as he got robbed in the past).

He also shot at them while they were fleeing.

So, yeah, in this particular case the judge decided that what he did was not covered by the law.

xyzzyz 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Just to nitpick, there is no such thing as “semiautomatic pump shotgun”. It’s either semiautomatic, or a pump.

giaour 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Where exactly is the imminent threat of deadly force in that example?