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hackyhacky a day ago

> The board of a company must act in the interests of shareholders

I think you don't understand what this phrase means. In a publicly-traded company, "the interest of the shareholders" does not mean "whatever the shareholders want"; it means "whatever is best for the company." That means money.

It may be possible to be both profitable and moral; but if it isn't, the fiduciary duty obligates corporate officers to choose the profitable path rather than the moral one.

The easy way of looking at this is that there beyond complying with the law, there is no general obligation for companies to behave morally, but there is a general obligation to behave profitably. So it's not hard to see why they make they choices they do.

> It's entirely possible to still satisfy those requirements by building a sustainable and moral company.

It is, but it's a lot easier to be not sustainable and not moral.

SR2Z 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No, it does not mean money. A fiduciary duty is a duty to manage money in someone else's best interests.

It's confusing because "fiduciary" sounds like you have to optimize for the mercenary interests of shareholders, but that is not true. Not every corporation is founded to turn a profit; what do you think the fiduciary duty looks like for a nonprofit?

The general obligation for the company to behave morally comes from two places: specific laws and the fact that its employees want to sleep at night. These are more powerful than a lot of people want to give credit for.

nativeit a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How are unsustainable decisions and practices working in the best interests of the shareholders?

deaux 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They aren't, and as such, deciding to forego short-term profit by making sustainable decisions and practices is of course not illegal whatsoever, nor does any company ever get sued for it.

hackyhacky 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Investors are motivated by short term gains.

SR2Z 17 hours ago | parent [-]

Some are. Others are holding for the long term.

mmooss a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> there is no general obligation for companies to behave morally, but there is a general obligation to behave profitably

What is that based on? I'd say there are certainly obligations for both.

The fact that some ignore those obligations - either obligation, for example when corrupt management stuffs its own pockets - doesn't make them less.

hackyhacky 17 hours ago | parent [-]

> What is that based on?

It's based on the (US) law. Corporate officers failing to advance the interests of the company can be prosecuted civilly or criminally.

There is no analogous legal obligation to act morally or in the interest of the general public.

https://www.iod.com/resources/governance/fiduciary-duties-fo...

deaux 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is absolutely not true. Your link is focused on the UK, the "interests of the company" are independent of "the interests of shareholders", and the duties/breaches listed there revolve around betraying the company (not shareholders) for individual gain. Insider trading, embezzlement, leaking, conflicts of interests. Nothing at all like "making a decision that prioritizes morals over short-term profits".

mmooss 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Required amorality is a widely told story (by the amoral), but it's disinformation.