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therealpygon 2 days ago

> Somewhere, you need aluminum smelters, steel mills, and copper mines.

Why? We already have plenty of materials that can, are close, or have potential pathways for functional substitutes depending on the application? We are already pretty reliably able to print metal with machines no bigger than a fridge.

What happens when a curable resin or impregnated plastic can sufficiently replace steel/aluminum/copper for functions? Why would a steel foundry be needed for the desktop then? There are more theoretical materials that haven’t been discovered than there are atoms in the universe or something crazy like that, so it isn’t beyond the realm of possibility or even likelihood. Especially if AI helps accelerate that discovery, as it seems to be doing already according to a recent Faraday talk in a Royal Institution video — "How AI is Reinventing the Battery".

It also used to be that you needed a large machine to make a plastic part…now I print some in 20 minutes with something that sits on my desk. If one thing is true, it’s that materials and technology constantly change and (generally) improve.

t098i3 2 days ago | parent [-]

...this commenter has never worked in manufacturing or studied materials science, and it shows.

Or, I'd wager, dropped a 3D printed resin part on a hard floor and watched it shatter like glass.

Animats a day ago | parent [-]

I-beam made from PLA with 3D belt printer.[1] Can be looked at.

I-beam made from steel with rolling mill.[2] Can hold up large building.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ-h-ErqrEg

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfaqrVFnQBQ

m4rtink a day ago | parent | next [-]

Well, that is going at the problem from the wrong direction - you should use a 3D printer not to print everything, rather to print tools and fittings to manufacture what you need from local resources.

In this case for example a saw making tool & make the beam from local wood using 3D printed gauges.

t098i3 20 hours ago | parent [-]

Wood you harvest and cut yourself is not going to match an I beam on strength, you need engineered wood for that, which involves adhesives and composites.

Not to mention, lots of places on earth don't have local wood suitable for construction...

lstodd a day ago | parent | prev [-]

yup. haha.

imagine 3d-printing a TEU. Or a container hauler.