| ▲ | chollida1 a day ago | |||||||
About 15 years ago it really started to get corporate. Big money came in and created camps with air conditioning, huge RV's no bartering, etc. Dustin Moskovitz and the like started going and wouldn't dare behave the ordinary peasants, by sleeping in tents, participating in the community, bartering for things. Heck Zuckerberg took a helicopter there one year. instead they just threw money at the event so they wouldn't have to do the things that made burning man, burning man. | ||||||||
| ▲ | mcslee a day ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||
I think you've picked the wrong target here. Worth reading Dustin's personal account of his Burning Man experience: https://medium.com/i-m-h-o/radical-inclusion-vs-radical-self... (bear in mind this was written 13 years ago, I'm not sure Dustin would agree with everything stated, but the broad strokes feel correct.) That post also explains Zuck's attendance. Zuck is not a Burner, it was a one-off visit encouraged by Dustin. Personally I think it was inconsequential in the long run but good for Zuck to have seen it. The criticism you're raising about money being thrown at the event is broadly valid, but it does not at all apply to how Dustin approached it, IMO. Dustin did precisely what you are suggesting he didn't - slept in a tent, literally cooked and served grilled cheese sandwiches. (Context: I was in the camp/village, attended 10 years 2009-2018, back once in 2025, have done a lot of playa art... and I also broadly agree with John Law's take.) | ||||||||
| ▲ | dmkolobov a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
I work at a financial company and around 2019, the break room had a magazine called “Meetings” with a front-page article about how burning man and sxsw are the next big thing in corporate culture. | ||||||||
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| ▲ | hingler36 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
I think this is where my head goes when I think of the event: a large portion of the attendees have gone from community members to customers. | ||||||||
| ▲ | bluegatty a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
What are you talking 'corporate' - there are no corporate sponsors, and people having been coming in with their big camp A/C rvs for 25 years at least. There's an airport there for 30 years - people have been flying airplanes and helicoptors forever. | ||||||||
| ▲ | bredren a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
Bartering is not a thing at the burn. It intended to be a gift-based event. Rainbow Gathering is barter-based. | ||||||||
| ▲ | throwup238 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
> Heck Zuckerberg took a helicopter there one year. The vast majority of the people I knew who flew in weren’t rich like Zuck, they just liked flying. It’s the only way to get a wristband that allows you to come and go at will (i.e. to run logistics for a camp) and avoid exodus if you had to leave that day. 15 years ago no one gave a damn about the rich people going to burning man. They were isolated in their camps. We were much more concerned with keeping our Sparkle Ponies alive. | ||||||||
| ▲ | bamboozled a day ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||
It’s funny the way having money and participating in something “the easy way” removes the coolness / authenticity from the experience. | ||||||||