Regional burns are a thing, and they're pretty awesome.

They can be, but unfortunately the org has threatened to revoke official regional burn status unless they followed all the same rules, in particular, that children be allowed. There used to be some leeway on that, and there were really wonderful regional burns that did not permit kids. They were forced to, which resulted in the "real" burn being in a small taped off area.

Seems insane to me to think kids should be at burns.

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__MatrixMan__ a day ago | parent | next [-]

I usually camp where I can get some distance from the noise, which means I hang out with the burner parents and their kids. It's really great to see all of the ways that burners adapt their art so that kids can participate, and the kids bring a pretty excellent energy also.

Most recently I was navigating this wooden maze, lots of tight spaces and odd bends necessary to get through it. Part way through I encountered a bunch of kids who weren't tall enough to get over a ledge (they navigated the rest of the thing with ease). I made myself into stairs for them and they completed it. Later I had an epic foam sword fight with the same bunch. It was super fun.

I've never been to the big burn, so maybe I'm just missing out on the magic of whatever you mean by the "real" burn (although many of the people at my regional say it isn't worth it), but I don't think anything was lost by having the kids around.

Their parents are convinced that it's raising a child in default society that's the more dangerous thing, and after talking with several of them I'm convinced as well.

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Ancapistani a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I’m pretty extreme ideologically, and that carries over to parenting. I would consider taking my child and requiring that it be allowed strikes me as an enormous red flag.

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newsclues a day ago | parent | prev [-]

That’s because it’s easier to recruit kids into cults or whatever

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pstuart a day ago | parent [-]

> That’s because it’s easier to recruit kids into cults or whatever

That's what Sunday School is for.

I lived in SF at the time of the original burns on Baker Beach and heard about them but I was too lame and isolated to ever participate but followed their antics (and the Cacophony Society) from afar.

The universe arranged for me to go ten years ago and I found the experience magical. There's an exhibit that shows how each wave of newcomers has destroyed burning man which I found to be a cheeky take on its evolution.

The kids I saw there were doing kid friendly stuff and them being allowed there was clearly to allow their parents to come without having to leave them behind.

There's plenty to hate about it but in the end it's about people coming together to have a good time, and there's nothing wrong with that.

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newsclues 19 hours ago | parent [-]

Or school, including university/college

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pstuart 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Sorry, but no. That's a key reason why the religious folk hate public education at the college level: that exposure tends to help previously indoctrinated kids recognize that they have been in a cult and they leave it.

As for K-12, their hatred is that the public version is competition for their private education which is fully intended to indoctrinate them into their particular flavor of religion.

I'm not saying this to be combative -- it's all publicly stated.

The only combative thing here is using the word "cult" to describe a mainstream religion, and even that is because people get offended by that rendering rather than it not being the case.

	▲	newsclues 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/endi... Maybe religious people hate public education because it is different programming than they offer?