DeltaChat was much more useful when it worked with any email server and didn't need its own special kind of server. We have plenty of messengers that use their own servers, like matrix, XMPP, and simplex.

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SahAssar a day ago | parent | next [-]

Didn't know they stopped working with regular email servers, that is a huge letdown. I'm guessing this was quite recent?

That was their one big plus and while I avoided it because of PGP, this means that it really has no upside over XMPP for me.

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rpdillon 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I appreciate the simplicity of hosting ChatMail versus a regular mail server. It's simpler, lighter weight, and better suited for the chat use case. It's basically the ideal messaging platform for my needs.

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inigyou 19 hours ago | parent [-]

It defeats the selling point of DeltaChat. You may as well use XMPP or Matrix.

	▲	noAnswer 9 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		It still works with regular mail servers: Quote from https://providers.delta.chat: "Usually, it just works, but for some providers, you need to adjust the settings. In this case, click on “prepare” for details. Please note that push notifications do not work with classic providers and esp. large classic providers often have sending limits and overzealous spam rejections. This can worsen the chat experience, as messages are delayed or missing messages may even disrupt groups."
	▲	rpdillon 10 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I've used both. Neither are as good. Your reply also completely ignores my point about the ease of hosting the infrastructure yourself. Prosody isn't too bad, but hosting Matrix is a nightmare -- as much as I admire what the Matrix crew is trying to do, the architecture is unwieldy and always has been.