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digitaltrees a day ago

I have had the same experience and feel pressured to adopt it. I had one former colleague say “you really have to stop looking at code” almost incredulous that I was uncertain about whether we should let models write really bad code and architecture that never would have been allowed in the before times. I will say when I let the agents go autonomous I often find I spend more time refactoring than if I had moved slower and forced them to write good code and follow project architecture patterns.

lrvick a day ago | parent [-]

I use agents to build exactly what I want like I am pair programming with a jr engineer, and review every line of final output before I make a PR.

I would have zero tolerance if anyone that did anything less in my orgs. Owning and understanding the code you submit is the one job that matters most now.

b112 a day ago | parent [-]

I feel that in a few years, or even less time, we'll see a whole bunch of companies implode, whist others remain fine.

lrvick a day ago | parent | next [-]

We see it every day in the news with hacks that were, in every single case, completely preventable. That is had any competent security engineers been involved, with leadership willing to fund the cycles to do it right.

"But we passed SOC2 and that is all our customers care about" they say, right up until they are in the headlines for a data breach directly resulting from them putting all customer data in plain text internet facing databases the whole team can access from their workstations. What did they think was going to happen? Survivors bias is a hell of a drug.

b112 a day ago | parent [-]

Yes, indeed. But at the same time, this is about "how much worse" it will be, with LLMs. With code review being skipped. With there being so much code, no one has the time to even code review.

It's a whole other level of junk. 100x worse than now. So multiple what you just said, x100.

lrvick 17 hours ago | parent [-]

Oh I think there is a substantial chance the internet completely breaks before we learn anything and try a sane approach on the rebuild.

inigyou a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We should have already seen it. Software was slop quality even before AI. But we didn't see it.

b112 a day ago | parent [-]

The whole point is, it's 10x, 100x more slop now, if no one looks at LLM output. If no one reviews it. Context.

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