> It is just a matter of time. The state, as we know it, will collapse or will be greatly reduced

Doubt.

The networking between people in power at the top will, in my opinion, most likely assure that they remain in power, because at the end of the day that is what they want most.

I expect government will seize control of the most advanced models (if they haven't already), and the rest of us will be throttled, and status quo will be maintained. I do not expect that either super advanced agents or the owners of the hardware they run on will be able to pull off the kind of coup you describe. At all.

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germandiago 17 hours ago | parent [-]

There will be a moment where the government will depend so much on the tech that if the tech cuts the supply, they are f...

Who do you think will rule at that point? They just cannot fight that, they do not have the technology these companies have.

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oopsieDayz an hour ago | parent | next [-]

We meaningfully passed that point decades ago.

You think all those lawyers and bar tenders and whatever MTG was serving in Congress are out there tilling fields and sewing shirts? Nope. Without that tech they are f...

"They"

Who are you talking about? Because if you haven't noticed the people in charge now will die.

Most of the Fortune 500 of the 1900s have been gone for decades. The olds are vastly outnumbered by youth who either hate them or wouldn't mind just getting to beat someone who can't fight back up

With measles and food contamination going wild now it's just as likely the rich and pols kill themselves.

There is no beating physics and Elon, Thiel, and such rely on a lot of people to do the work for them. If society implodes all bets are off. Their wealth is coupled to legitimacy of America. Those body guards aren't going to abandon families for a broke former billionaire

There's no upside for the rich is things implode or the divide is not believed to exist; they become common rabble and get a pick axe too

The rich and politicians are just stupid meat suits too. They misread a room and screw up alot

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lotsofpulp 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In that situation, it depends how much physical force the government has to compel the tech leader, and how much physical force the tech leader has to counter it.

Usually, the number of bodies who will comply is the proxy for power, but with automation, it could be different in the near future.

https://xkcd.com/538/

	▲	germandiago 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		But it can clearly be seen that the power will not be as monopolistic as before indeed. The rebalance leans towards losing power for states vs tech in part. Regulation alone cannot control if it cannot be made effective.