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amazingamazing 2 days ago

Do you believe anyone with a surveillance camera should have the owners name and address published if in any way a “public” area is recorded?

I suppose we can start with all Blink, Ring and Nest Cams. Then we will continue with dash cam owners.

folkrav 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

You are equating installing personal security camera(s) to knowingly selling extra-judiciary mass-surveillance hardware and software to law enforcement. What's the point you're trying to make with this, exactly?

schiffern 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

1. Installing a yard camera.

2. Building a mass surveillance dragnet and purpose-built tracking software and marketing it heavily to random local authorities.

Yep, totally the same thing...

Refreeze5224 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't. But I do think the CEO of a company who sells spying as a service to cops should have a taste of his own medicine.

amazingamazing 2 days ago | parent [-]

So much for privacy should be a human right lol.

Refreeze5224 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Privacy absolutely should be a human right. But currently it isn't, and part of why is there is lots of money to be made with surveillance on ordinary people. And things will not change unless the people who exploit the privacy of other for monetary gain feel the effects of their privacy being violated.

Like the CEO of Flock.

peterm4 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Human rights are routinely revoked from those that impede on the rights of others. This is the premise that underpins prisons. Privacy being a human right still holds true.

card_zero 2 days ago | parent [-]

From which I conclude that prisons are wrong, but also if I don't like someone I can revoke his rights and push him downstairs.

eloisius 4 hours ago | parent [-]

What is the morally correct approach to dealing with murderers?

zaptheimpaler 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It sounds like you think Flock is just another home camera system, but it’s not and you could read up on that.

wookmaster 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I think the point is these home systems are controlled centrally and can be used the same way flock can. I personally removed ring and installed my own system that doesnt export video out of concern with the governments lack of checks and balances anymore.

amazingamazing 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

You should read up on police use of the cameras I mentioned

dghlsakjg 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If they are sharing the footage with a dragnet, tracking people across the country, and giving access to unaccountable cops with a history of abusing that data?

Yes.

If they are using it to see when their amazon package got delivered, or for bog standard security purposes?

No.

idiotsecant 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Are you asking if a public registry of where you're being observed by security cameras is a good thing? Sure. I wouldn't mind that.

queenkjuul 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have no issue banning ring and nest cams, actually. They hand the data to cops too

UncleMeat 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Scale matters. The “well technically an army of tens of millions of cops could achieve the same thing” argument is thoroughly unconvincing.

sigmarule 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Context matters. Without it, very foolish things can be said.

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