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fckgw 4 hours ago

It's shocking how many comments here didn't bother to read the article. At all.

They're not talking about putting the TV online. The TV is completely offline.

They're talking about plugging the TV into a PC or laptop via HDMI or Displayport (like if you're running an HTPC), which then triggers a companion app update on the PC via Windows Update. This was a news item a few weeks ago with their monitors. They then also discuss a hardware blocker for HDMI or DP to prevent this.

Again, this has nothing to do about the TV's smart apps.

beloch 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I was unaware of these side-loaded malicious apps until now. This is information consumers need to have.

It's very reminiscent of Sony putting rootkits on CD's. Unwanted, dangerous software is being loaded onto your computer by people you paid money to. The companies involved, including MS, should face serious blowback over this, as Sony did.

spicyjpeg 3 hours ago | parent [-]

This isn't even the worst payload ever delivered through Windows Update. The prize for that should probably go to chip manufacturer FTDI, which once abused the system to publish a driver that would semi-permanently brick USB serial bridge parts the driver detected as counterfeit [1] by exploiting a command that the genuine parts did not implement correctly (how ironic) [2]. The backlash was large enough that Microsoft ended up pulling the update almost immediately, but that did not stop FTDI from trying again a few years later with another driver update that deliberately corrupted data sent through detected-counterfeit parts.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTDI#Driver_controversy

[2] https://github.com/therealdreg/ftdibrick#diving-deep

Henchman21 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It’s almost like money gives some people the idea that being a cunt is 100% ok so long as you get your money.

abruzzi 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Its not entirely clear from the article--is the EDID telling Windows to install the driver without asking you, or is it prompting you to install a driver, you are agreeing, then along with the driver comes the junkware?

pseudosavant 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Basically, Windows has been installing monitor drivers for a very long time automatically. Usually a single INF file. Recently, companies like LG have discovered and abused that by instead of just that single INF file, they are installing software that pushes malware like McAffee anti-virus onto your computer.

More of a Windows Update + MS partner issue than EDID.

fuzzzerd 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

While that is an important distinction, the fact you might need a downloaded driver for a screen is a bit ridiculous to begin with.

DANmode an hour ago | parent [-]

You do not.

Mindwipe 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The EDID is just a model identifier and some capability metadata, it can't tell Windows to do anything.

It's Windows that decides that it should download a driver from Windows Update because it recognises it hasn't got a driver from that hardware, and it's Microsoft that let the vendor submit drivers that are bundled with near malwareto Windows Update.

warkdarrior 3 hours ago | parent [-]

That is how you end up with walled-garden OSes. Users plug in random device into their computer, the OS vendor tries to simplify operation by installing a device driver that was not vetted, and then users complain they are not protected.

Then the OS vendor will start limiting which devices they support and with very strict review processes.

ndriscoll 13 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

My OS has no walled garden and also does not randomly install drivers when I plug hardware in. It comes with generic defaults, adds drivers I tell it to, and never modifies anything without me telling it to. Crazy idea.

drfloyd51 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This is a fair trade off for many. I want my OS to protect me. All things being equal, if my OS doesn’t help shitty vendors install unwanted stuff… good.

It can swing the other way, my options are limited to company’s that pay my OS provider for access.

garciansmith an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah, previous discussion about this issue with LG monitors and TVs is here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48956688