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____tom____ 5 hours ago

They are likely going to have access. Lots of things have built in cellular modems these days, and your cable provider already uses your cable modem as a hotspot for other people.

You can do things like physically modifying your TV, or seeing if there are undocumented settings to disable things.

alexfoo 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It works both ways though.

The traffic was separated so that anything on the public hotspot was not attributed to the private subscriber network.

Secondly for years I lived somewhere very remote so that meant that hardly anyone ever got to use my broadband connection via such a hotspot, but I got to use hundreds of other peoples hotspots when I was somewhere less isolated.

I was quite happy to opt in to this system as I benefitted hugely from it.

drnick1 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> your cable provider already uses your cable modem as a hotspot for other people.

Is this for real? This does not affect me as I use my own equipment, but I still find it hard to believe.

WalterGR 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yes. Xfinity is the big one. Their devices create two hotspots: one for the customer and one to power their Xfinity WiFi service and for bandwidth offloading for their cellular service.

Instructions for disabling it: https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/disable-xfinity-wif...

jedbrooke 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I have to say though as a xfinity customer, being able to get wifi basically anywhere urban is pretty nice

akiselev 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Major ISPs in the US have been doing it for at least a decade. Xfinity Wifi [1] claims over 20 million wifi hotspots provided through customer routers.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xfinity#Xfinity_WiFi

Terr_ 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Started years ago:

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/06/comcasts-new-neighborh...

ButlerianJihad 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes. Cox has been doing it for years. They boast citywide hotspot access for all subscribers. I formerly thought that this hotspot network consisted of dedicated APs which they mount and maintain on utility poles in public places. But that’s just the start.

Every Cox customer has a Panoramic WiFi router that advertises as a member of the “CoxWiFi” SSID, and other customers can authenticate there and access the Internet through your connection. This is on a strictly opt-out basis.

I’ve opted-out, and also my router is permanently in Bridge Mode, so there is no technical way for me to provide anyone a WiFi connection. But all my neighbors do, even if they are blissfully unaware.

saintfire 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The best thing about fibre rollout in my region is that the ONT appears to act as the modem so I don't need to set the modem/router into bridge mode any more.

I'm sure that'll end.

DANmode an hour ago | parent [-]

Why?

robotnikman 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Another reason to use your own Wifi router and modem

drnick1 15 minutes ago | parent [-]

Absolutely. Independently of the unauthorized sharing of your bandwidth, ISP gateways are notoriously insecure and underspec'ed. They also have nasty backdoors[0].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TR-069

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majorchord 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> hotspot for other people.

How does this work legally when you get in trouble for someone else's activity?

margalabargala 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's also usually not that hard to open the case and remove the physical antennas.

Ancalagon 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Is that why the cable companies are always trying to get me to use their equipment now?? God I hate this.

Barbing 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Plus the DNS spying even after disabling their safety stuff (impossible to change DNS on Comcast Xfinity-provided gateway). Still trying to get as good speeds with my own equipment.