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scosman 2 days ago

z.ai is using all Chinese hardware for flash: https://thenewstack.io/glm-5-3-flash-chinese-chips/

There are other providers with much faster inference, like BaseTen at >100t/s: https://openrouter.ai/z-ai/glm-5.3-flash#performance

gpm 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Does Chinese hardware mean fabbed in China or designed in China and fabbed by TSMC?

malshe 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

How do I find out where the openrouter model providers' servers are located?

RussianCow 2 days ago | parent [-]

If you click on the provider name, the panel that pops up shows a "Region" value. Not every provider lists their region, however.

malshe 2 days ago | parent [-]

I think the region is just the HQ of the provider. So z.ai's region is Singapore but it's quite likely that their servers are actually in China

RussianCow 2 days ago | parent [-]

I don't think that's right, or if it is, OpenRouter has incorrect data. Several Chinese companies (headquartered in China) have Singapore listed as their region on OR. And some companies, like Alibaba Cloud, have multiple regions listed.

I'm happy to be proven wrong, but this makes me think that the region is where the servers are, not where the HQ is.

malshe 2 days ago | parent [-]

I couldn't find any article that states z.ai has a data center in Singapore. There are stories of their new 1 GW data center in China though. Also, openrouter lists HQs on their providers page which matches the regions. https://openrouter.ai/providers

RussianCow 2 days ago | parent [-]

Interesting. I wonder where they're getting their data from then, because they list Z.ai under Singapore, but everything I'm finding says they're based in Beijing. Same with MiniMax.

malshe 2 days ago | parent [-]

Many Chinese AI companies have their HQs in Singapore because of US sanctions. If I remember it correctly Manus is also based there. But it's a Chinese company through and through as we know from the events that unfolded after Meta's buyout attempt.