Can't buy a tesla without the app.

Worse, to sell a tesla, you are the person saying "ok, install the app, then I can transfer ownership to you, conveniently!"

and this is getting normalized with other car manufacturers.

(and it ALL goes back to apple... who started the whole app nonsense, and promoted a look-and-feel that gave tesla a terrible tap and swipe iphone/ipad type ui in a moving car)

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Sindisil 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Can't buy a tesla without the app.

Works for me. No Tesla it is, then.

Not the only reason, but one of several.

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Whatarethese 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You can absolutely buy a Tesla and operate it for the life of the vehicle without an app or even a smartphone. They have key fobs and keycards for this purpose. Go into the store or order online. Everything can be handled by the Tesla store if you are selling the car and need to transfer it to another person.

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eru 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Of course, having to go to the original store to sell a product second-hand ain't exactly the best user experience either.

(It's fine by me, if that's their design and I don't think they are hiding it or tricking anyone. People should be allowed to buy products that I don't like.)

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m463 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This was not my experience. I had an older one one with keyfob, and only needed a website login.

But a newer car, everything had to go through the app and complete milestones and other nonsense.

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olyjohn 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Excuse me? Why does Tesla need to be involved at all? Take the title to the DMV and transfer it.

	▲	ethbr1 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Because the easiest way to boost profitability is to ignore laws and user rights via technologically constructed workarounds.

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Spooky23 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The nearest Tesla store is 150 miles away. No.

There’s an easier solution: don’t buy Tesla.

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jinimojkg 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> that gave tesla a terrible tap and swipe iphone/ipad type ui in a moving car

Not sure why you’re blaming Apple for Tesla’s mistake of thinking a phone UI is appropriate for a car system UI.

Besides, you can “trace it back” to anyone you want really. The problem is not Apple. The problem is people accepting this nonsense from bullshit companies and apps in the first place.